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Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar #4462186
07/17/17 06:56 PM
07/17/17 06:56 PM
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Spokane, WA
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Got my first UOA back today. Pretty happy with the results. This was run through a few months of winter, so about the worst service and most short trips this car will ever see.


2012 Mazda5 - 0w20 cheaptest synthetic, 6 MO OCI
2013 Grand Caravan - 5w20 cheapest synthetic, 10k/OLM OCI
Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Oscar_Ruitt] #4462195
07/17/17 07:11 PM
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How did you get a Cu reading of 7? What's your secret? Wonder if an oil with a sodium add pack makes the difference?

I've had three UOAs with my Durango; Cu was 19,23,22 respectively. My intervals were shorter than yours.

I'm jealous!

oh yeah, nice report! Thanks for posting.


'14 Durango AWD 3.6,(mine) Hav ProDS 5w30/Napa Gold
'15 Journey AWD 3.6, (wife's) Napa Syn 5w20/Napa Gold
'01 F250 4x4 7.3PSD, 126k, M1 TDT 5w40/MC

Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Oscar_Ruitt] #4462196
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Synpower and Napa Synthetic have a rap on this Board of having a weak additive package BUT they always shine in UOAs. This UOA rivals any posted on this forum- regardless of the oil.

Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Oscar_Ruitt] #4462205
07/17/17 07:20 PM
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Clovis, CA
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Does DGC stand for Dodge Charger ? That's pretty clever. smile

Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Merkava_4] #4462210
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Does DGC stand for Dodge Charger ? That's pretty clever. smile


Obviously it stands for DODGE GRAND CARAVAN. hard to figure out huh

Last edited by car51; 07/17/17 07:25 PM.

09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Oscar_Ruitt] #4462245
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Looks great. Thanks for the info!

Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Slick17601] #4462249
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Originally Posted By: Slick17601
Synpower and Napa Synthetic have a rap on this Board of having a weak additive package BUT they always shine in UOAs. This UOA rivals any posted on this forum- regardless of the oil.


Very true. You ever notice if the finished product packaging ain't pretty people start thinking the product is low quality. Napa packaging is a bit cheesy and that may be a reason.
That said you can't argue with these results!

Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Oscar_Ruitt] #4462265
07/17/17 08:35 PM
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Real fantastic report here on Napa Synthetic. Looks great.


Luke
P-3C and P-8A Maritime Weapons and Tactics Instructor, Instructor Tactical Coordinator and Mission Commander
Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: 53' Stude] #4462429
07/18/17 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: car51
Obviously it stands for DODGE GRAND CARAVAN. hard to figure out huh


What did you say before you edited it ? grin

Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Oscar_Ruitt] #4462439
07/18/17 01:59 AM
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Nice report. Distance was 8,700 miles and with only 12 ppm Iron, 7 ppm Copper. That's good.

The TBN was 2.1 and the KV100 = 8.17 cSt, so still in grade and some life left in the oil.

Valvoline / Napa can go the distance.


Penrite Vantage 10W40 SN & A3/B4 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: AirgunSavant] #4462466
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Originally Posted By: AirgunSavant
Originally Posted By: Slick17601
Synpower and Napa Synthetic have a rap on this Board of having a weak additive package BUT they always shine in UOAs. This UOA rivals any posted on this forum- regardless of the oil.


Very true. You ever notice if the finished product packaging ain't pretty people start thinking the product is low quality. Napa packaging is a bit cheesy and that may be a reason.
That said you can't argue with these results!


So true! .. It just goes to show you there is much more to oil today then what we see on paper meaning the add pack is much more sophisticated then what we see. Napa/Valvoline synthetic on the surface looks just ho-hum but just shows fantastic UOA's. I have not run a UOA yet on the Valvoline Synpower I am running yet but no oil makes my 2012 Nissan Pathfinder idle smother.

Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: SR5] #4462649
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Originally Posted By: SR5
Nice report. Distance was 8,700 miles and with only 12 ppm Iron, 7 ppm Copper. That's good.

The TBN was 2.1 and the KV100 = 8.17 cSt, so still in grade and some life left in the oil.

Valvoline / Napa can go the distance.


No, not in grade for a 5w30, not close. Not atypical for a 5w30 to shear down quite a bit, just pointing out that your statement is incorrect.

The engine didn't seem to mind the viscosity reduction at all. The newer Pentastars call for 5w20, I believe.


2012 Hyundai Sonata GLS 6MT 2.4GDI, ProDS 10w30, XG9688 filter, 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander SEL 2.4 CVT, Factory fill still.
Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Brons2] #4462665
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Originally Posted By: Brons2
Originally Posted By: SR5
Nice report. Distance was 8,700 miles and with only 12 ppm Iron, 7 ppm Copper. That's good.

The TBN was 2.1 and the KV100 = 8.17 cSt, so still in grade and some life left in the oil.

Valvoline / Napa can go the distance.


No, not in grade for a 5w30, not close. Not atypical for a 5w30 to shear down quite a bit, just pointing out that your statement is incorrect.

The engine didn't seem to mind the viscosity reduction at all. The newer Pentastars call for 5w20, I believe.

It's in grade for a 5W-20, which is what he was running.

Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Brons2] #4462666
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I believe it is a 5W20. It looks like the subject line of the post is wrong in stating 5W30.

Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Oscar_Ruitt] #4462801
07/18/17 12:21 PM
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Spokane, WA
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Oops my bad. It is 5w-20. (OP)


2012 Mazda5 - 0w20 cheaptest synthetic, 6 MO OCI
2013 Grand Caravan - 5w20 cheapest synthetic, 10k/OLM OCI
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