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#4462186 - 07/17/17 06:56 PM Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar
Oscar_Ruitt Offline


Registered: 04/21/11
Posts: 93
Loc: Spokane, WA
Got my first UOA back today. Pretty happy with the results. This was run through a few months of winter, so about the worst service and most short trips this car will ever see.
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#4462195 - 07/17/17 07:11 PM Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Oscar_Ruitt]
Mantooth Offline


Registered: 07/26/15
Posts: 483
Loc: Southern Indiana
How did you get a Cu reading of 7? What's your secret? Wonder if an oil with a sodium add pack makes the difference?

I've had three UOAs with my Durango; Cu was 19,23,22 respectively. My intervals were shorter than yours.

I'm jealous!

oh yeah, nice report! Thanks for posting.
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#4462196 - 07/17/17 07:13 PM Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Oscar_Ruitt]
Slick17601 Offline


Registered: 12/04/04
Posts: 1515
Loc: Pennsylvania
Synpower and Napa Synthetic have a rap on this Board of having a weak additive package BUT they always shine in UOAs. This UOA rivals any posted on this forum- regardless of the oil.

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#4462205 - 07/17/17 07:20 PM Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Oscar_Ruitt]
Merkava_4 Offline


Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 17501
Loc: Clovis, CA
Does DGC stand for Dodge Charger ? That's pretty clever. smile

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#4462210 - 07/17/17 07:25 PM Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Merkava_4]
car51 Offline


Registered: 03/12/15
Posts: 10257
Loc: Southwest PA
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Does DGC stand for Dodge Charger ? That's pretty clever. smile


Obviously it stands for DODGE GRAND CARAVAN. hard to figure out huh


Edited by car51 (07/17/17 07:25 PM)
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#4462245 - 07/17/17 08:11 PM Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Oscar_Ruitt]
AirgunSavant Offline


Registered: 07/22/15
Posts: 3772
Loc: MD
Looks great. Thanks for the info!

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#4462249 - 07/17/17 08:14 PM Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Slick17601]
AirgunSavant Offline


Registered: 07/22/15
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Originally Posted By: Slick17601
Synpower and Napa Synthetic have a rap on this Board of having a weak additive package BUT they always shine in UOAs. This UOA rivals any posted on this forum- regardless of the oil.


Very true. You ever notice if the finished product packaging ain't pretty people start thinking the product is low quality. Napa packaging is a bit cheesy and that may be a reason.
That said you can't argue with these results!

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#4462265 - 07/17/17 08:35 PM Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Oscar_Ruitt]
FlyNavyP3 Offline


Registered: 07/04/16
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Loc: Jacksonville, FL
Real fantastic report here on Napa Synthetic. Looks great.
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#4462429 - 07/18/17 01:17 AM Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: car51]
Merkava_4 Offline


Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 17501
Loc: Clovis, CA
Originally Posted By: car51
Obviously it stands for DODGE GRAND CARAVAN. hard to figure out huh


What did you say before you edited it ? grin

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#4462439 - 07/18/17 01:59 AM Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Oscar_Ruitt]
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Registered: 07/07/15
Posts: 4467
Loc: Down Under
Nice report. Distance was 8,700 miles and with only 12 ppm Iron, 7 ppm Copper. That's good.

The TBN was 2.1 and the KV100 = 8.17 cSt, so still in grade and some life left in the oil.

Valvoline / Napa can go the distance.
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#4462466 - 07/18/17 05:20 AM Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: AirgunSavant]
Camprunner Offline


Registered: 02/19/08
Posts: 1034
Loc: MA.
Originally Posted By: AirgunSavant
Originally Posted By: Slick17601
Synpower and Napa Synthetic have a rap on this Board of having a weak additive package BUT they always shine in UOAs. This UOA rivals any posted on this forum- regardless of the oil.


Very true. You ever notice if the finished product packaging ain't pretty people start thinking the product is low quality. Napa packaging is a bit cheesy and that may be a reason.
That said you can't argue with these results!


So true! .. It just goes to show you there is much more to oil today then what we see on paper meaning the add pack is much more sophisticated then what we see. Napa/Valvoline synthetic on the surface looks just ho-hum but just shows fantastic UOA's. I have not run a UOA yet on the Valvoline Synpower I am running yet but no oil makes my 2012 Nissan Pathfinder idle smother.

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#4462649 - 07/18/17 09:43 AM Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: SR5]
Brons2 Offline


Registered: 09/16/03
Posts: 3042
Loc: Austin, Texas
Originally Posted By: SR5
Nice report. Distance was 8,700 miles and with only 12 ppm Iron, 7 ppm Copper. That's good.

The TBN was 2.1 and the KV100 = 8.17 cSt, so still in grade and some life left in the oil.

Valvoline / Napa can go the distance.


No, not in grade for a 5w30, not close. Not atypical for a 5w30 to shear down quite a bit, just pointing out that your statement is incorrect.

The engine didn't seem to mind the viscosity reduction at all. The newer Pentastars call for 5w20, I believe.
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#4462665 - 07/18/17 09:54 AM Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Brons2]
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Registered: 06/27/17
Posts: 475
Loc: DFW
Originally Posted By: Brons2
Originally Posted By: SR5
Nice report. Distance was 8,700 miles and with only 12 ppm Iron, 7 ppm Copper. That's good.

The TBN was 2.1 and the KV100 = 8.17 cSt, so still in grade and some life left in the oil.

Valvoline / Napa can go the distance.


No, not in grade for a 5w30, not close. Not atypical for a 5w30 to shear down quite a bit, just pointing out that your statement is incorrect.

The engine didn't seem to mind the viscosity reduction at all. The newer Pentastars call for 5w20, I believe.

It's in grade for a 5W-20, which is what he was running.

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#4462666 - 07/18/17 09:55 AM Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Brons2]
77GrandPrix Offline


Registered: 01/29/06
Posts: 261
Loc: Mid-Tenn
I believe it is a 5W20. It looks like the subject line of the post is wrong in stating 5W30.

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#4462801 - 07/18/17 12:21 PM Re: Napa Synthetic 5w30 8691 miles 2013 DGC Pentastar [Re: Oscar_Ruitt]
Oscar_Ruitt Offline


Registered: 04/21/11
Posts: 93
Loc: Spokane, WA
Oops my bad. It is 5w-20. (OP)
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