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PRNDL on its way out? #4461677
07/17/17 11:33 AM
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supton Offline OP
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I know Jeep etc have taken flak for their rotary shifter, but it appears GM is getting now too. Only they're copying... Chrysler?



Ward's


2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 179k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 146k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 202k, his
Re: PRNDL on its way out? [Re: supton] #4461688
07/17/17 11:44 AM
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More gimmicky stuff from car mfgs. They should focus more on making headlights that don't fail IIHS tests.


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Re: PRNDL on its way out? [Re: supton] #4461690
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It's already electronic, anyway. What's the difference? *Shifts TH400 into D* (that's third gear for you unacclimated millennials) *and motors away*.


To quote a friend, "Synthetics, man."

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Re: PRNDL on its way out? [Re: mclasser] #4461695
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Or headlights you don't need to remove the bumper to replace smile

Originally Posted By: mclasser
More gimmicky stuff from car mfgs. They should focus more on making headlights that don't fail IIHS tests.

Re: PRNDL on its way out? [Re: supton] #4461698
07/17/17 11:57 AM
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I don't understand the hate for the rotary shifters. I love it on our Fusion.


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Re: PRNDL on its way out? [Re: supton] #4461714
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Really who ever uses the Low?
Really only good when you were a teenager for burnouts.



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Re: PRNDL on its way out? [Re: Panzerman] #4461720
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Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Really who ever uses the Low?
Really only good when you were a teenager for burnouts.


Driving down steep grades I find L to be useful.

But I can see how that might not be considered by those who live in a relatively flat state smile


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Re: PRNDL on its way out? [Re: supton] #4461725
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I don't get the point of replacing a simple gear selector that has worked for decades with something new and less intuitive. What customers are asking for this type of "innovation"???

Re: PRNDL on its way out? [Re: supton] #4461727
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Re: PRNDL on its way out? [Re: supton] #4461732
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Car manufacturers have lots of solutions for problems you never knew you had. They also have things you don't need but will have to maintain in the future. Just pay attention and get ready for the next can't live without feature that's coming your way.

Re: PRNDL on its way out? [Re: supton] #4461742
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I have no particular use for the "START" button. Especially the one which leaves you little or no control over the cranking process.

Re: PRNDL on its way out? [Re: Panzerman] #4461745
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supton Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Really who ever uses the Low?
Really only good when you were a teenager for burnouts.


I often select the topmost gear that I'll let the transmission shift into. Lifetime of driving sticks means I'm used to being involved.

I usually will lock out upper gears in town, no need to upshift then downshift ten yards later.


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2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 146k, ours
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Re: PRNDL on its way out? [Re: HerrStig] #4461750
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Originally Posted By: HerrStig
I have no particular use for the "START" button. Especially the one which leaves you little or no control over the cranking process.


I dunno, I'm getting used to it in my truck. Just blip the starter and it auto-starts. I can always tell when I've driven my truck for too long: I get into one of my other vehicles, and magically they have starting problems--until I realize, I actually have to hold the key to make 'em crank. First world problems.

Haven't had a push button start yet. I think I'd prefer to keep my key.


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2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 146k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 202k, his
Re: PRNDL on its way out? [Re: supton] #4461752
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I'm waiting for the lawsuits stemming from someone getting confused and not leaving the vehicle in park.

It happened with the recent Grand Cherokee shifter...


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Re: PRNDL on its way out? [Re: supton] #4461755
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Great! Another way to have to take your eyes off of where you're going. I guess the more numb buttons the better it sells anymore. It's like having to "text" your car just to make it go.


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