Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
504 is backward compatible with 502, so you should be OK. It is a fine oil.
That appears to be the case.
540 meets or exceeds 502 in all VW oil performance categories - mostly exceeds them.
The following clarification of VW oil spec' may be useful:
http://www.oilspecifications.org/articles/vw_motor_oil_specifications_explained.php
It is in Europe where sulfur level is up to 10ppm, but mostly lower. Also, due to NoX requirements, EU vehicles have different burn.
All VW owners in North America should stick to VW 502.00 or 505.01, and not any VW 502.00 but those meeting also MB 229.5 so that NOACK % are below 10%. ll this is addressed on BITOG numerous times.
You haven't addressed the fact that 504 matches or outperforms 502 and 505.
PP Euro LX 0W-30 also has MB certification.
So it has MB 229.51 certification? And? Lot of other oils meet MB 229.51 or MB229.5 (229.5 actually has tougher deposit requirements). What does that mean when it comes to high sulfur gas? VW 504.00/507.00 have tougher requirements when it comes to protection in 0/5W30 grade as VW504.00/507.00 are ONLY certified in those grades and not 0/5W40. Other then having advantage over VW 502.00/505.01 in 0/5W30 grade, VW504.00/507.00 do not have any advantage when it comes to protection over 0/5W40 oils that meet for sake of argument MB 229.51 or MB 229.5 (since you mentioned that). Where VW504.00/507.00 has advantage over VW502.00/505.01 is protection of emission system. Also, NOACK requirements on 504/507 are not too stringent on NOACK as for example MB 229.51.
However, all that on a side, in North American market, VW504.00/507.00 is worse choice then 502/505.01.
I did UOA on my Tiguan and CC 2.0T that I owned before trying Mobil1 5W30 ESP, and it could barely do 3K miles.
So, to simplify things, VW504.00/507.00 does not outperforms VW502.00/505.01 in North American market. In EU yes, in NA no.