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Salt Petre Man - did you know ? #4458923
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Back in highschool law, we were taught about the Salt Petre man in Britain, who was given carte blanche to enter your premises, dig up your floor (well most likely your stables and chicken coops) and extract the urine soaked soil therein to return to his/her Majesty for the production of gunpowder.

The raw product (easily obtained from liquid fertiliser these days, not needing urine, straw and dirt) was in short supply, so these measures were enacted...

1645 British legislation...
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/no-series/acts-ordinances-interregnum/pp828-830

Quote:
Power to persons named by Parlt. to dig for Saltpeter in likely places.; Saltpetermen to give satisfaction to Owners for damage.; Persons refusing to allow Saltpeter-men to dig, to be proceeded against.


Interesting reading, as it lays out that they can dig your stuff up...have to fix it, can borrow your transport and recompense you at a fixed rate per mile

Re: Salt Petre Man - did you know ? [Re: Shannow] #4458948
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Collecting "night soil" as it was called was listed as one of "The Worst Jobs In History" on a British tv series recently.

Probably has some connection to the term "Taking the [censored]" as well.

Claud.

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Re: Salt Petre Man - did you know ? [Re: Shannow] #4459004
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Checkout worsting of wool. The use of urine to take out the oils from wool



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Re: Salt Petre Man - did you know ? [Re: Claud] #4459014
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Originally Posted By: Claud
Collecting "night soil" as it was called was listed as one of "The Worst Jobs In History" on a British tv series recently.

Probably has some connection to the term "Taking the [censored]" as well.

Claud.


Great post, I always wondered the origin of that phrase.

Re: Salt Petre Man - did you know ? [Re: Shannow] #4459048
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I believe that urine was used in Indigo processing also.
In South Carolina, one of the reasons for a citizens arrest being applicable is still : entering an outhouse with intent to plunder.


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Re: Salt Petre Man - did you know ? [Re: Shannow] #4459078
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In Rome urine was collected to wash clothes. Our tolerance for "aromas" has gone weak. banana


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Re: Salt Petre Man - did you know ? [Re: Shannow] #4459160
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Napoleon would send word to Josephine not to bathe days before his return because of the "Scent of the Woman".
Apparently that was quite popular of the day.



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Re: Salt Petre Man - did you know ? [Re: Shannow] #4459197
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Napoleon also favored a ripe cheese that used the same mold as sweaty gym sox grin2


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Re: Salt Petre Man - did you know ? [Re: Shannow] #4459267
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No, I better not say what Josephine told the Little Corporal. Don't want to get banned again. laugh

Re: Salt Petre Man - did you know ? [Re: Shannow] #4459366
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The romans saved their urine for various and sundry purposes too, didn't they? In clay jugs. Maybe for processing animal hides.


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Re: Salt Petre Man - did you know ? [Re: Shannow] #4459374
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Re: Salt Petre Man - did you know ? [Re: Claud] #4459592
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Originally Posted By: Claud
Collecting "night soil" as it was called was listed as one of "The Worst Jobs In History" on a British tv series recently.


When I was a kid, my grandparent's house (the one that my Mum spent her life in till she moved out) had an outdoor brick loo, with a metal can.

The "Dunny Can Man" would come around every few weeks and take it away, swapping for a fresh one...they just took it to the sewage works, emptied it and washed it out, nothing special...although the guy DID die of a heart attack while emptying a can, and ended up inturd himself.

Mum and her siblings bought Nan and Grandad an inside toilet (well out on the verandah), and a bathroom for their 50th wedding anniversary...to that point, baths were the metal tub filled with water off the fireplace...I think I was around 6 when they got the inside done

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My mom thought indoor plumbing was decadent. She also told us that we needed to experience a depression so that we would have a better appreciation of how good we had it. I didn't see a dentist until I was fifteen and had three teeth rotted off to the gum line and infected. Yes sir, we really had it good.

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Originally Posted By: Shannow

The "Dunny Can Man" would come around every few weeks and take it away, swapping for a fresh one...they just took it to the sewage works, emptied it and washed it out, nothing special...although the guy DID die of a heart attack while emptying a can, and ended up inturd himself.

Congratulations on the punniest pun I have read in the last ten years, no joke.


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Re: Salt Petre Man - did you know ? [Re: Shannow] #4461185
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Not unlike today, where the mineral rights are typically severed from the ownership of the land itself and the owners of those mineral rights can develop them with or without the consent of the property owner.


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