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Fuel Stabilisers for Vehicle Storage #4458101
07/13/17 09:32 AM
07/13/17 09:32 AM
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Posts: 1,481
Ontario, Canada
mightymousetech Offline OP
mightymousetech  Offline OP
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Ontario, Canada
Did a search and surprisingly did not find much. Guess there are not many that drive in the salt belt and store their cars for the winter.

Anyways, seeing that I drive in the area with the highest winter salt use in the world, my nice car (the BMW) gets stored for the winter, usually for about 5 months.

What fuel stabilisers do people use and have good results? I always store the car with ethanol free gas (Shell 91 here in Ontario), I usually use the Sta-Bil brand fuel stabiliser, but last year I used Seafoam in the tank, as it says on the bottle that it will stabilise fuel for up to two years. Turns out it really does not. Took the car out of storage and was getting bad misfires. While driving at slow highway speed, the engine would miss every 20 or 30 s, bad enough it felt like all the brakes locked on for a split second. Car had a full tank so had to drive some before I could put fresh gas in. Put a 100 km on it and filled it up again. Miss completely went away. Drove it down to near empty, and after filling it completely up again with fresh gas, the engine really came back to life.

Guess I am going back to Sta-bil.

What say the hive?


Mighty Mouse Tech
BMW Tech, Former Acura Tech
2010 Civic Si Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL
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Re: Fuel Stabilisers for Vehicle Storage [Re: mightymousetech] #4458124
07/13/17 09:49 AM
07/13/17 09:49 AM
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Upstate NY
Donald Offline
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Upstate NY
Blue marine Stabil or Startron.

Typically the blue StaBil for gas in gas can for mower. Startron for boat gas tank (75 gal).

The blue marine Stabil had a lot of cleaners also.


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Re: Fuel Stabilisers for Vehicle Storage [Re: mightymousetech] #4458143
07/13/17 10:06 AM
07/13/17 10:06 AM
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Port Orange, Florida
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Port Orange, Florida
I am surprised. Iam a faithful user of SeaFoam sometimes my stuff sits well over 2 years without issues. With Sta-bil I still had the brass jets corrode and plug. No problems since I switched to Sea Foam.
A favorite with farmers too in the off season.



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Re: Fuel Stabilisers for Vehicle Storage [Re: mightymousetech] #4458150
07/13/17 10:15 AM
07/13/17 10:15 AM
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Posts: 30
Iowa
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Iowa
SeaFoam caused issues with my 67 Camaro, 65 Corvette and 96 LT4 Corvette (Fuel injected). all had gunk in the fuel system/ The one common thing was they were are stored with non-ethanol premium fuel treated with SeaFoam. Never again.

Re: Fuel Stabilisers for Vehicle Storage [Re: mightymousetech] #4458170
07/13/17 10:35 AM
07/13/17 10:35 AM
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Waco, TX
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Waco, TX
SeaFoam has too much alcohol in it.

Store the car with ethanol-free gas, and either Sta-Bil or Pri-G


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Re: Fuel Stabilisers for Vehicle Storage [Re: mightymousetech] #4458171
07/13/17 10:35 AM
07/13/17 10:35 AM
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Pennsylvania
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Pennsylvania
Been using StaBil for years in both my motorcycles and car that are stored from
November to May. I have always used 2 to 3 times the recommended dose amount.
Never had any start up or running issues. No smoke either.

Re: Fuel Stabilisers for Vehicle Storage [Re: mightymousetech] #4458173
07/13/17 10:36 AM
07/13/17 10:36 AM
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MA, Mittelfranken.de
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MA, Mittelfranken.de
Blue Sta-Bil or Sta-Bil 360


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Re: Fuel Stabilisers for Vehicle Storage [Re: mightymousetech] #4458176
07/13/17 10:39 AM
07/13/17 10:39 AM
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MI
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MI
mightymouse, I have searched the world wide interweb about fuel stabilizers and have come to the conclusion that only anecdotal data exists. You have already gotten a taste of it above. While I haven't had the mythic E10 issues that some claim, I find that there are a few tidbits of good information on this self serving site: http://www.fuel-testers.com/is_gas_additive_safe_with_e10_list.html Pay attention to the fine print and a few suggestions they sneak in along the way. Then, form your own opinion.

I use the blue marine stabil for what its worth and attempt to practice good fuel management practices. In our northern climate, I think that over winter storage should be much less of an issue compared the the tropics of the southern U.S..

If you learn of good product evaluations, please share them. If I remember correct, I think that our member Molekule has tried to set us straight a few times about the realities of fuel stabilization. Maybe he will chime in.

Re: Fuel Stabilisers for Vehicle Storage [Re: mightymousetech] #4458195
07/13/17 10:54 AM
07/13/17 10:54 AM
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Minnesota
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Minnesota
If sta-bil worked in the past I would keep using it. I stored my car the last few winters (~5 months) and used Startron as it was on sale. I also used premium ethanol free gas. Come spring it fired right up and ran perfect.


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Re: Fuel Stabilisers for Vehicle Storage [Re: mightymousetech] #4458215
07/13/17 11:17 AM
07/13/17 11:17 AM
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Oneida County, NY
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Oneida County, NY
I use red stabil along with 91 octane.


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Re: Fuel Stabilisers for Vehicle Storage [Re: mightymousetech] #4458251
07/13/17 12:05 PM
07/13/17 12:05 PM
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Chicago, IL
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Chicago, IL
I have used red Sta-Bil every year and never had an issue.


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Re: Fuel Stabilisers for Vehicle Storage [Re: mightymousetech] #4458254
07/13/17 12:10 PM
07/13/17 12:10 PM
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Columbus,Nebraska
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Columbus,Nebraska
StaBil smile

Re: Fuel Stabilisers for Vehicle Storage [Re: mightymousetech] #4458257
07/13/17 12:11 PM
07/13/17 12:11 PM
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MD
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MD
I use Star Tron with every fill up in all of my equipment and not just for storage.
A small bottle treats 512 gallons and my mower makers insist on it. Great stuff!

Re: Fuel Stabilisers for Vehicle Storage [Re: mightymousetech] #4458269
07/13/17 12:19 PM
07/13/17 12:19 PM
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Great White North.. eh
webfors Offline
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Great White North.. eh
Red stabil +MMO using non-ethanol 91 octane in all small engines and motorbike. Gas is fresh for up to a year. Everything starts on one pull. Never any carb issues going on a decade.


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Re: Fuel Stabilisers for Vehicle Storage [Re: 2010Civic] #4458310
07/13/17 01:10 PM
07/13/17 01:10 PM
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Posts: 1,481
Ontario, Canada
mightymousetech Offline OP
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Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: 2010Civic
If sta-bil worked in the past I would keep using it. I stored my car the last few winters (~5 months) and used Startron as it was on sale. I also used premium ethanol free gas. Come spring it fired right up and ran perfect.


Yes, will be going back to StaBil for this winter.


Mighty Mouse Tech
BMW Tech, Former Acura Tech
2010 Civic Si Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL
2013 BMW 135i M Sport Edition Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL
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