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Permatex Rust Treatment... #4457713
07/12/17 09:15 PM
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Started doing the T4R frame...impressive stuff






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Re: Permatex Rust Treatment... [Re: dblshock] #4457772
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I haven't had success, even with mildly rusty hand tools that were put back in a drawer. OTOH I haven't tried topcoating it.

Re: Permatex Rust Treatment... [Re: dblshock] #4457917
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I did something similar just the other day to my 2012 Nissan Pathfinder I had very little rust but wanted to keep it that way. The whole key is in the prep if the coating will stick or not did you prep the serfice at all? With my frame I washed it with a rag and CRC brake clean to remove any oil or dirt before spraying with a high grade Ruberized undercoating.

Some say not to use Ruberized undercoating and others say that is what you should use? So we will see how it holds up I really think it's all in the prep. What is the Permatex coating? Is it a paint or Ruberized undercoating?

Re: Permatex Rust Treatment... [Re: dblshock] #4457923
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The key to it in the rust belt is to keep up with it you should check it every year hear in Massachusetts the brine they use on the roads is 12 times more corrosive then rock salt cars and trucks show rust so quickly after purchase it's crazy!

Re: Permatex Rust Treatment... [Re: dblshock] #4457944
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What Permatex product? Pictures in a year would be good.


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Re: Permatex Rust Treatment... [Re: dblshock] #4457972
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But did/can you get the stuff inside the frame? That's the key.

I need to redo mines too. Been using Fluid Film because I can get it sprayed inside the little holes of the frame.


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Re: Permatex Rust Treatment... [Re: ZebRuaj] #4457975
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Originally Posted By: ZebRuaj
But did/can you get the stuff inside the frame? That's the key.

I need to redo mines too. Been using Fluid Film because I can get it sprayed inside the little holes of the frame.


Yes getting it inside the frame is the key! One of the best products to use inside and outside the frame is Cosmoline you can buy it in cans or larger quantities and you don't have to reapply it every year just touch up some areas. My next new car or truck I will give it a complete Cosmoline treatment.

Re: Permatex Rust Treatment... [Re: ZebRuaj] #4457976
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Originally Posted By: ZebRuaj
But did/can you get the stuff inside the frame? That's the key.

I need to redo mines too. Been using Fluid Film because I can get it sprayed inside the little holes of the frame.


Yep! They rust from the inside out


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Re: Permatex Rust Treatment... [Re: dblshock] #4458118
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The CarWell shop has a 30" (approximately) wand to get the product into the frame box and body cavaties.


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Re: Permatex Rust Treatment... [Re: dblshock] #4458147
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Guys. This is a rust converter, not an undercoat...

Re: Permatex Rust Treatment... [Re: dblshock] #4458200
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That brake doesn't like a Girling or ATE.

Re: Permatex Rust Treatment... [Re: Ethan1] #4458205
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Originally Posted By: Ethan1
Guys. This is a rust converter, not an undercoat...


Correct and a good primer and top coat over it is a very good idea. A top coat alone is OK, a primer and top coat is even better.


God Bless Our Troops

Re: Permatex Rust Treatment... [Re: dblshock] #4458243
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can somebody explain what am I supposed to learn from the 4 pictures posted? is there some previous context such as one side got rust treatment 2 years ago etc?

Re: Permatex Rust Treatment... [Re: dblshock] #4458698
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dblshock Offline OP
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it's some sort of acid that coverts rust to a protective blob of whatever..looks like black burnt plastic..the most important parts to protect are in the wheel wells especially suspension mounts..here's a linky


Permatex Rust Treatment


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Re: Permatex Rust Treatment... [Re: dblshock] #4458703
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dblshock Offline OP
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I just knocked the loose flakes off with a small chisel the compressed air to clean it up..it converts the rust so probably requires some to activate.


16 Civic Coupe Touring 33k
640:1 TCW-3 E091
Edge 0/40 XG7317
Firehawk Indy 500

06 4Runner SR5 141k
640:1 TCW-3
M1 0/40 XG3614
Falken Wildpeak AT3W
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