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'13 Tundra - TRD or Amsoil filter vs. OEM #4457339
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I just stumbled across this forum and have been doing some research. I've always been a fan of using the best oil, and even, more importantly, the best oil filter for my vehicles. Current vehicle is a '13 Tundra with the 5.7 flex engine. I tow a 6,000 lb. travel trailer a few weekends a year.

I just learned that the TRD filters fit my Tundra engine. I also read a lot of good things about the Amsoil filters. From secondhand information, it seems like both filters claim a 98% reduction in particulates at a 20 micron size. I haven't been able to find any data on my OEM paper filter, but going to the full synthetic filter (both TRD and Amsoil) I expect an improvement in filtering.

If it matters I'm likely going to use Penzoil Platinum oil. Mobil 1 is also a smaller possibility.

Are the TRD and Amsoil pretty equivalent? Do you recommend a different filter?

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Re: '13 Tundra - TRD or Amsoil filter vs. OEM [Re: Hal3134] #4457377
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Why not just run factory filters. Unless your truly extending intervals stock fliters are cheap and are pretty good.


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Re: '13 Tundra - TRD or Amsoil filter vs. OEM [Re: Hal3134] #4457389
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I guess that depends on how well the basic OEM filters perform. My research suggests that they are offer significantly less performance, although I've had to crib that together from anecdotal evidence. For the extra $10 per oil change I'm happy to use a higher quality filter. I tend to keep my vehicles until they are almost unfixable (e.g. engine rebuild needed).

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Re: '13 Tundra - TRD or Amsoil filter vs. OEM [Re: Hal3134] #4457393
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Originally Posted By: Hal3134
I guess that depends on how well the basic OEM filters perform. My research suggests that they are offer significantly less performance, although I've had to crib that together from anecdotal evidence. For the extra $10 per oil change I'm happy to use a higher quality filter.

If you are concerned that the OEM filter is detrimental in the long run. then that sounds like what you should do.


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Re: '13 Tundra - TRD or Amsoil filter vs. OEM [Re: Hal3134] #4457431
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Are you going to double stint the TRD filter since it's so high end?

I did a UOA on the Camry at the 60k mark and filtration and wear results were excellent using the oem filter.


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Re: '13 Tundra - TRD or Amsoil filter vs. OEM [Re: Hal3134] #4457432
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If you are wanting particle removal, look into a Microgreen oil filter. There were tests on this site comparing it to a K&N oil filter. The MG had over 50% less particles tested in the oil. That's why I run them. Great filters but a bit pricey. Worth it. Use a good quality oil, PP is good. You will be set.

Re: '13 Tundra - TRD or Amsoil filter vs. OEM [Re: SatinSilver] #4457435
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If by double stint you mean swap it out every other oil change, then the answer is no, probably not. The cost of the oil filter is a small investment in the life of my Tundra.

I'm happy to change my mind and save a few bucks, however, when I see some data that says that would be ok to do.

What is "UOA"?

Re: '13 Tundra - TRD or Amsoil filter vs. OEM [Re: Syntheticuser] #4457437
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Originally Posted By: Syntheticuser
If you are wanting particle removal, look into a Microgreen oil filter. There were tests on this site comparing it to a K&N oil filter. The MG had over 50% less particles tested in the oil. That's why I run them. Great filters but a bit pricey. Worth it. Use a good quality oil, PP is good. You will be set.


Thanks, any data/opinions on how it compares to the TRD and Amsoil filters?

Re: '13 Tundra - TRD or Amsoil filter vs. OEM [Re: Hal3134] #4457442
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The Fram Ultra is approaching 99.9% @ 20 microns and 80% @ 5 microns.


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Re: '13 Tundra - TRD or Amsoil filter vs. OEM [Re: Hal3134] #4457451
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Hal,
No sir. I was told by a rep that it is 80% @25-40 micron and 96% @5 micron. It is a bypass type oil filter with a regular element. Two filters in one.

Re: '13 Tundra - TRD or Amsoil filter vs. OEM [Re: Syntheticuser] #4457452
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Originally Posted By: Syntheticuser
Hal,
No sir. I was told by a rep that it is 80% @25-40 micron and 96% @5 micron. It is a bypass type oil filter with a regular element. Two filters in one.

Shouldn't the smaller particle size have the lower percentage?

Re: '13 Tundra - TRD or Amsoil filter vs. OEM [Re: Hal3134] #4457457
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The main filter is basically a rock catcher...the bypass part is a round super dense disk. Look it up, it's really cool how they did it.

Re: '13 Tundra - TRD or Amsoil filter vs. OEM [Re: Syntheticuser] #4457460
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Originally Posted By: Syntheticuser
The main filter is basically a rock catcher...the bypass part is a round super dense disk. Look it up, it's really cool how they did it.

It may be really cool but there is no ISO 4548-12 data published by microGreen to show it is any better or worse than any other filter. Multiple people here have requested such data from them but to no avail.

Please provide a link to the test you reference against the K&N filter.


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Re: '13 Tundra - TRD or Amsoil filter vs. OEM [Re: Hal3134] #4457461
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Originally Posted By: Hal3134
Originally Posted By: Syntheticuser
If you are wanting particle removal, look into a Microgreen oil filter. There were tests on this site comparing it to a K&N oil filter. The MG had over 50% less particles tested in the oil. That's why I run them. Great filters but a bit pricey. Worth it. Use a good quality oil, PP is good. You will be set.

Thanks, any data/opinions on how it compares to the TRD and Amsoil filters?

No data. microGreen does not publish the results of any ISO 4548-12 tests they may have performed.


1994 BMW 530i, 228K
1996 Honda Accord, 263K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 400K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 271K
Re: '13 Tundra - TRD or Amsoil filter vs. OEM [Re: Hal3134] #4457467
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Originally Posted By: Hal3134
Are the TRD and Amsoil pretty equivalent?

Any takers on this?

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