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First oil change #4456025
07/11/17 08:36 AM
07/11/17 08:36 AM
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Icantelia Offline OP
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I have a 2016 Civic EX Turbo with only 500 miles and the maintenance minder says that my oil level is at 10% and it is 12 months old. I have read that this car has a special factory fill for the 600 mile breaking period. (Maybe I read that incorrectly, or the information was wrong.)

Is that true about the special oil? Should I get the oil changed now because it has been 12 months or wait for the 600 miles or longer? Why does the A service say "without oil filter"?

"If a Maintenance Minder indicator does not appear more than 12 months after the display is reset, change the engine oil every year.
NOTE: Inspect idle speed every 160,000 miles (256,000 km).
Adjust the valves during services A, B, 1, 2, or 3 if they are noisy.

Symbol / Maintenance Main Items
A. Replace engine oil
- Engine oil capacity without oil filter
1.5 L engine models: 3.2 L (3.4 US qt)
2.0 L engine models: 4.0 L (4.2 US qt)

B. Replace engine oil and oil filter
- Engine oil capacity with oil filter
1.5 L engine models: 3.5 L (3.7 US qt)
2.0 L engine models: 4.2 L (4.4 US qt)"

Re: First oil change [Re: Icantelia] #4456034
07/11/17 08:45 AM
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Regardless of the owner's manual, I'd change it. Good rule of thumb is 12 months if it's used pretty much daily but not enough miles to exceed the interval. Considering it's your first change and it's got that much age on it I'd certainly change the oil and filter.


To quote a friend, "Synthetics, man."

'85 GMC C3500, 454, 132K
'82 Mercedes 300CD, OM617 turbo, 173K (totaled 2018, in rehab)
'85 Mercedes 300TD, OM617 turbo, 217K (wife's)
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Re: First oil change [Re: Alex_V] #4456058
07/11/17 09:08 AM
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Kira Offline
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OP said, "...my oil level is at 10%..." OMG! Fried engine from within.

Re: First oil change [Re: Icantelia] #4456060
07/11/17 09:10 AM
07/11/17 09:10 AM
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10% and the maintenance minder hasn't gone off? When does it go off? 5%?


2012 Hyundai Sonata GLS 6MT 2.4GDI, ProDS 10w30, XG9688 filter, 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander SEL 2.4 CVT, Factory fill still.
Re: First oil change [Re: Brons2] #4456067
07/11/17 09:19 AM
07/11/17 09:19 AM
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Ontario, Canada
mightymousetech Offline
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Originally Posted By: Brons2
10% and the maintenance minder hasn't gone off? When does it go off? 5%?


It shows up at 15%. I am assuming OP wrote that wrong and the oil life is still at 90%.

The oil should also be changed at 1 year.

Last edited by mightymousetech; 07/11/17 09:30 AM.

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Re: First oil change [Re: Icantelia] #4456073
07/11/17 09:24 AM
07/11/17 09:24 AM
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Idaho
CT8 Offline
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Clean oil is happy oil.


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: First oil change [Re: Icantelia] #4456126
07/11/17 10:19 AM
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N.H, U.S.A.
ARCOgraphite Offline
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Leave it. Total waste to dump. Likely the best oil that engine will see. I would though consult with dealer about warranty FIRSTLY though.

The oil chemistry will preserve the oil through next year - regardless of rules of thumb - a rule of law which applies to the size of the switch you are allowed to cane your spouse with - not oil.

Lightly used oil = less engine wear than NEW oil.

Last edited by ARCOgraphite; 07/11/17 10:20 AM.

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Re: First oil change [Re: Icantelia] #4456127
07/11/17 10:20 AM
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Icantelia Offline OP
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Oil level is fine and clean. Yes the MM went on at 15%, but I really don't drive it too often - obviously.
Can anyone confirm what I read about a "special factory fill" for the break-in period?

Re: First oil change [Re: Icantelia] #4456145
07/11/17 10:31 AM
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Only 500 miles on the clock and the MM is saying it's down to 10%? How is that even possible?

Re: First oil change [Re: Bottom_Feeder] #4456151
07/11/17 10:34 AM
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Matagonka Offline
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Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
Only 500 miles on the clock and the MM is saying it's down to 10%? How is that even possible?


It probably takes time into account as well.

Re: First oil change [Re: ARCOgraphite] #4456155
07/11/17 10:37 AM
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mightymousetech Offline
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
I would though consult with dealer about warranty FIRSTLY though.


We say to do it at the one year mark, so does the owners manual.


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Re: First oil change [Re: Matagonka] #4456158
07/11/17 10:38 AM
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mightymousetech Offline
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Originally Posted By: Matagonka
Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
Only 500 miles on the clock and the MM is saying it's down to 10%? How is that even possible?


It probably takes time into account as well.


Would be the first Honda/Acura that does that. Have never seen one that does.

OP, are you sure you are not just looking at the trip meter and not the actual mileage?

Last edited by mightymousetech; 07/11/17 10:39 AM.

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2010 Civic Si Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL
2013 BMW 135i M Sport Edition Castrol 0W40, Redline MTL
Re: First oil change [Re: mightymousetech] #4456177
07/11/17 11:02 AM
07/11/17 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
OP, are you sure you are not just looking at the trip meter and not the actual mileage?


He also stated "the MM went on at 15%" so it sounds like he's understanding / reading it correctly. It definitely sounds like the MM has a "clock" counter factored in too.

Last edited by hallstevenson; 07/11/17 11:02 AM.
Re: First oil change [Re: mightymousetech] #4456184
07/11/17 11:07 AM
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hallstevenson Offline
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Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
I am assuming OP wrote that wrong and the oil life is still at 90%.

Not so funny misunderstanding of the MM that I found while Googling oil change intervals related to newer Civics:

Quote:
A buddy of mine works at a Honda dealership and someone brought in a car overflowing with oil. See, the owner thought the "oil life" was "oil level" and ended up pouring multiple quarts of excess oil into the car. Not surprisingly the oil life meter didn't change throughout the process.

Re: First oil change [Re: Icantelia] #4456193
07/11/17 11:15 AM
07/11/17 11:15 AM
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Icantelia Offline OP
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Yes I am reading it correctly. I really don't drive much, so that is why the car is 1 year old with 500 miles. I just thought it was strange that the MM was telling me the oil was at 15% at the one year mark. I have checked it and it is full and clean. A few weeks ago, the MM said it was 10%. I have checked it and again the oil on the stick is full and clean. That is why I am questioning it.

Why does Honda say to only replace engine oil and not the filter with an "A" service? All of my previous Honda's were always oil and filter.

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