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Trnny Filter Setup #4455595
07/10/17 06:22 PM
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I'm planning on installing an inline filter and was thinking about going with the Derale Remote Filter Mount Kit...

But, I'm unclear on which Derale part number to get to be able to use these two filters:

Baldwin B252 Heavy Duty Spin-On Transmission Filter
https://www.amazon.com/Baldwin-B252-Heav...ds=Baldwin+B252

WIX Filters - 51269 Heavy Duty Spin-On Hydraulic Filter
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0014BHVRO/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3VZ5Q2W3NT509&colid=GDEPGCX59WSP

Re: Trnny Filter Setup [Re: Rockrz] #4455602
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I bought a filter housing off the shelf at pepboys made by trans dapt over the weekend, under $30 fits 3/4-16


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Re: Trnny Filter Setup [Re: Rockrz] #4455633
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Magnefine !

$35 shipped.


Multiple Diesel and Gasoline vehicles
Re: Trnny Filter Setup [Re: Rockrz] #4455693
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OK, thanks.

I'm really wanting a spin on filter and since the parts aren't that expensive I wouldn't be worried about price as this is something that's going to help a tranny last longer.

I suppose I could just buy one of the Derale Remote Filter Mount Kits along with these two filters and return anything that doesn't fit together.

Re: Trnny Filter Setup [Re: Rockrz] #4455705
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Magnefine. The bulk of what I see in a Magnefine pulled from service is metallic paste. The spin on does not have a magnet in the middle of the fluid flow.


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Re: Trnny Filter Setup [Re: Donald] #4455714
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Originally Posted By: Donald
Magnefine. The bulk of what I see in a Magnefine pulled from service is metallic paste. The spin on does not have a magnet in the middle of the fluid flow.


But, one can easily place a very strong magnet on the bottom of the filter which I have been doing on my oil filters for years.

Any metal shavings will be trapped at the bottom of the filter.

Last edited by Rockrz; 07/10/17 08:17 PM.
Re: Trnny Filter Setup [Re: Rockrz] #4455731
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Magnefine is way over priced for the teeny weeny filter.


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Re: Trnny Filter Setup [Re: Rockrz] #4455745
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Not to mention a spin on filter is going to provide better filtration

Re: Trnny Filter Setup [Re: Rockrz] #4455816
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Any filter base with a 3/4-16 threads will work.

Put it in the return line, and hang a 3614 or 3600 (or equivalent) filter on...

Bazinga!

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Re: Trnny Filter Setup [Re: mattwithcats] #4455823
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I'm leaning towards going with this...

B&M 80277 filter kit
Wix 51269 Spin-On Hydraulic Filter

Re: Trnny Filter Setup [Re: Rockrz] #4455849
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Originally Posted By: Rockrz


But, one can easily place a very strong magnet on the bottom of the filter which I have been doing on my oil filters for years.

Any metal shavings will be trapped at the bottom of the filter.


Any metal shavings that will go through the filter media are likely to do just that. They wont be trapped by a single magnet until they closely approach it, which will probably take quite a few passes, though the cannister body will also be somewhat magnetised.

Might a very strong magnet in that location interfere with the operation of the bypass valve?

EDIT: Just realised this is about transmission filters, not engine, so my assumptions may not apply: ENDEDIT.

Last edited by Ducked; 07/11/17 01:33 AM.
Re: Trnny Filter Setup [Re: Rockrz] #4456072
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I have a fairly large magnet on the bottom of my transmission pans and when you pull the pan you can see stuff gathering right where that magnet was so it can be cleaned out.

I learned this from guys that are in racing running high end engines and trannys

Re: Trnny Filter Setup [Re: CT8] #4456978
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Originally Posted By: CT8
Magnefine is way over priced for the teeny weeny filter.


It offers alot of bang for that buck.

I always cut mine open at regular replacement intervals and find the magnet doing what it is designed to do--pull out ferrous metals. Mine are located in the return line from the cooler and all of this fluid must pass in close proximity to that magnet,,,much closer proximity than a magnet in a pan...IMO.

Besides, it saves me having to drop the pan as often to clean that magnet.

The Magnefine also has a traditional filter element and this captures non-ferrous contaminants. Lets face it, the typical AT filter inside the transmission is not a small micron design. The engineers do not think it is necessary so the Magnefine is already offering several times the filtration capability.

You do bring up a valid point, it is classified by the World Governing Automatic Transmission Filter Council as "teeny-weeny" grin and therefore needs to be changed out about every 15,000 miles IIRC.

plus its small design is less likely to get smashed by a rock in off-pavement applications.


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Re: Trnny Filter Setup [Re: Rockrz] #4456985
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Originally Posted By: Rockrz
Not to mention a spin on filter is going to provide better filtration


An interesting point?

How much filtration is necessary?

The engineers who designed the factory AT filters in the pan apparently don't think much based on the element found in a factory filter...its often a porous foam and even considered "lifetime" in many Recommended Service Intervals.


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Re: Trnny Filter Setup [Re: Rockrz] #4457114
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Quote:
How much filtration is necessary?


As much as one can get!



Quote:
The engineers who designed the factory AT filters in the pan apparently don't think much based on the element found in a factory filter...its often a porous foam and even considered "lifetime" in many Recommended Service Intervals.


If they build things that last too long... they are working themselves out of a job so it stands to reason why they wouldn't use high quality media and why they don't want tranny filters to be serviced

That way they get to sell parts down the line or a whole new vehicle. Manufacturers have to keep selling stuff or they go out of business like any business.

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