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Full Synthetic Recommendation 5.7l Hemi 100k #4455359
07/10/17 01:58 PM
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gambit023 Offline OP
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Can you guys recommend me a full synthetic oil for a 2009 Jeep 5.7 Hemi engine? It consumes about a quart every 5k miles. Live in the mid-Atlantic region and mostly mixed driving city/highway.

I've always used Royal Purple 5w20, but now my local Walmart does not carry it any longer.

Was thinking of one of these two:
Pennzoil Platinum High Mileage Full Synthetic Motor Oil with PurePlus Technology
or
VALVOLINE FULL SYNTHETIC WITH MAXLIFE

Re: Full Synthetic Recommendation 5.7l Hemi 100k [Re: gambit023] #4455366
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Pennzoil ultra


2011 Prius 96k miles RLI 5w20
97 Toy T100 4x4: amsoil 0w20 242k Miles
04 Toy Sienna awd: Pennzoil 0w20 281k Miles
Re: Full Synthetic Recommendation 5.7l Hemi 100k [Re: gambit023] #4455373
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Balearic Islands , Spain
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Valvoline Full synthetic with Maxlife 5W-30
Or Mobil 1 10W-30 HM.


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.

1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.

Finnish expat in Spain.
Re: Full Synthetic Recommendation 5.7l Hemi 100k [Re: gambit023] #4455374
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I would recommend the valvoline and i am sure when you make this switch there will be no consumption.


Nissan N16 -10w30
Nissan S13 -20w50

Royal Purple HPS smile
Re: Full Synthetic Recommendation 5.7l Hemi 100k [Re: gambit023] #4455377
07/10/17 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: gambit023
Can you guys recommend me a full synthetic oil for a 2009 Jeep 5.7 Hemi engine? It consumes about a quart every 5k miles. Live in the mid-Atlantic region and mostly mixed driving city/highway.

I've always used Royal Purple 5w20, but now my local Walmart does not carry it any longer.

Was thinking of one of these two:
Pennzoil Platinum High Mileage Full Synthetic Motor Oil with PurePlus Technology
or
VALVOLINE FULL SYNTHETIC WITH MAXLIFE


Either of your choices should serve well; I agree that a 30 grade oil should help with the consumption.


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: Full Synthetic Recommendation 5.7l Hemi 100k [Re: gambit023] #4455385
07/10/17 02:12 PM
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10W-30 would not hurt either and probably would have lower NOACK right?


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.

1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.

Finnish expat in Spain.
Re: Full Synthetic Recommendation 5.7l Hemi 100k [Re: gambit023] #4455388
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gambit023 Offline OP
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The manufacture calls for 5w20 weight to support their Multi-Displacement System so wanted to stick with that viscosity.

Re: Full Synthetic Recommendation 5.7l Hemi 100k [Re: gambit023] #4455402
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Originally Posted By: gambit023
The manufacture calls for 5w20 weight to support their Multi-Displacement System so wanted to stick with that viscosity.


M1 or Pennzoil, high mileage wouldn't be a bad idea. Its remotely possible that 5w30 would throw a code for cam phasing, but not a high percentage of engines seem to do that. Its also a gamble as to whether or not 5w30 would reduce consumption. EVERYBODY ASSumes that thicker oil is harder to get past the rings, but that's not necessarily true. Thicker oil may, to an extent, just cause worn oil control rings to "ride over" a thicker layer of oil on the cylinder wall, whereas a worn oil control ring can scrape more of the thin oil away. Which one burns less oil is very engine dependent. I used to have an engine that, a 250,000 miles, burned a somewhat annoying amount of 10w30- more than 1 quart per 1000 miles. I tried 20w50, and oil consumption nearly doubled and the plugs started fouling. I quickly went back to 10w30...


'66 Dodge Polara & '69 Dodge Coronet R/T both 440/727
'08 Ram 1500 4.7/545RFE
'12 Challenger SRT8 392/6-speed
'99 XJ 4x4 4.0/AX15, '14 WK2 4x4 3.6/8HP
Re: Full Synthetic Recommendation 5.7l Hemi 100k [Re: gambit023] #4455403
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I've never understood (or checked into) why some of the modern 5.7L Hemi's use 5w-20, and others (like the 475+ hp or 6.1L versions) use 0w-40. Is it all about the MDS or are there other factors? And is this also an issue where in Europe or elsewhere the car is delivered to you with 5w-30 or higher with or without MDS?


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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
1969 Ply GTX/RRs
Re: Full Synthetic Recommendation 5.7l Hemi 100k [Re: gambit023] #4455411
07/10/17 02:44 PM
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Up the HP and up the bearing loads ... More film strength to compensate smile

I'd prolly go Pennz Platinum in 0W-20 for the Jeep. Better base stocks to start with and good add pak smile


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Full Synthetic Recommendation 5.7l Hemi 100k [Re: gambit023] #4455442
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I have used M1 0-20AFE for years with outstanding results. No oil consumption at all in my Fords at 10K OCI.


2007 Ford Fusion 235,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 60K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Full Synthetic Recommendation 5.7l Hemi 100k [Re: gambit023] #4455443
07/10/17 03:24 PM
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VALVOLINE FULL SYNTHETIC WITH MAXLIFE and Castrol Magnetech holds up better than any other oils used in the Ford EcoBoost engines.


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: Full Synthetic Recommendation 5.7l Hemi 100k [Re: CT8] #4455445
07/10/17 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: CT8
VALVOLINE FULL SYNTHETIC WITH MAXLIFE and Castrol Magnetech holds up better than any other oils used in the Ford EcoBoost engines.


I know folks using M1 oils with great success in EB Fords.

Last edited by tig1; 07/10/17 03:27 PM.

2007 Ford Fusion 235,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 60K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Full Synthetic Recommendation 5.7l Hemi 100k [Re: gambit023] #4455530
07/10/17 05:08 PM
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I would quit using the 5w20 if it was using oil. I don't believe the MDS mumbo jumbo.
My Challenger has MDS and uses 0w40. Buddy up in Pennsylvania has a Charger with a 5.7 and uses 5w30 without issues.
Just manual followers trying to put scare tactics in you.

Last edited by Panzerman; 07/10/17 05:08 PM.


2006 Dodge Ram 2500 Hemi 4x4
2016 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack
Re: Full Synthetic Recommendation 5.7l Hemi 100k [Re: tig1] #4455544
07/10/17 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: CT8
VALVOLINE FULL SYNTHETIC WITH MAXLIFE and Castrol Magnetech holds up better than any other oils used in the Ford EcoBoost engines.


I know folks using M1 oils with great success in EB Fords.
With twice the iron.


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
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