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#4455147 - 07/10/17 10:28 AM Fram Core filters any good
tech230 Offline


Registered: 11/22/12
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Loc: FL, US
Was at a Walmart which doesn't have a TLE, & saw these filters on the mark down rack for $1.00. Walmart employee said the store was accidentally shipped a bunch of these filters, & they're selling them cheap to get rid of them. These filters any good? I figure for $1.00 I'll use one.


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#4455151 - 07/10/17 10:30 AM Re: Fram Core filters any good [Re: tech230]
tech230 Offline


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Loc: FL, US
They said they were originally marked for $2.10 but weren't selling. For $1.00 I bought 3 of them.

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#4455156 - 07/10/17 10:34 AM Re: Fram Core filters any good [Re: tech230]
Panzerman Offline


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Is that a Fram E-Core?


Edited by Panzerman (07/10/17 10:34 AM)
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#4455158 - 07/10/17 10:35 AM Re: Fram Core filters any good [Re: tech230]
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A decent but, not great filter. I've used them with confidence. Ed
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#4455162 - 07/10/17 10:37 AM Re: Fram Core filters any good [Re: tech230]
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Your pics are of a standard Ecore construction from the Frampion days. Somewhere in the 92% to 94% efficiency range at 20 microns depending on date of manufacture. If these are the second generation Ecore with 8 longitudinal ribs on the center cage you did fine for $1. Main thing I don't like on the second gen Ecore us they still use a combo valve instead of seperate ADBV & BPV construction.
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#4455191 - 07/10/17 11:28 AM Re: Fram Core filters any good [Re: tech230]
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For a $1 I would use it. It is a basic filter good for a 5000 mile OCI.
As said, it does have a combo valve, but nothing I would worry about for a short interval.
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#4455245 - 07/10/17 12:25 PM Re: Fram Core filters any good [Re: tech230]
Run Offline


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Can't go wrong for a dollar. There were a few of these cut open and posted on here. Some went way too long and still held up.
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#4455289 - 07/10/17 01:20 PM Re: Fram Core filters any good [Re: tech230]
Panzerman Offline


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I wouldn't use a E-Core on a bicycle. Give me a ripped Purolator anytime over that garbage.
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#4455328 - 07/10/17 02:14 PM Re: Fram Core filters any good [Re: tech230]
Sayjac Offline


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For a buck and a 3-5k conventional oil oci, ok. Basic jobber filter, and the one you have is an ecore. Even though they are currently selling on ebay and some WMs in the past, technically they are intended for, ie., supposed to be sold at retail.

As an aside, I was walking by a local WM TLE and asked if I could see a Fram Core 3614. In the "Core" line it's always been an ecore. The one he showed me was Fram fiber endcap filter. So it would seem the WM TLE Core filters are converted back to all Fram filters, from fram filter filtration filters which were a combination of Fram and Champ made filters. Since no more ecores I wonder if they will change the name.

Otoh, locally AZ STP blue filters are still the combination Fram and Champ made filters with some ecores including the 3614. Like the previous Fram Core line.

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#4455351 - 07/10/17 02:52 PM Re: Fram Core filters any good [Re: tech230]
FordBroncoVWJeta Offline


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It seems the core gets the job done. On the 3387a for GM cars they have gone rid of the ecore for a metal tube.

Only would recommend a 3K mile oil change as that was what they are intended for from Walmart TLE.
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#4455370 - 07/10/17 03:05 PM Re: Fram Core filters any good [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta]
tech230 Offline


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Originally Posted By: FordBroncoVWJeta
It seems the core gets the job done. On the 3387a for GM cars they have gone rid of the ecore for a metal tube.

Only would recommend a 3K mile oil change as that was what they are intended for from Walmart TLE.

I'll have to check the newer 3506 & 3675(taller version of the 3506) & see if they got rid of the e-core also. These filters are for the 99-06 full size GM trucks with the 4.8 & 5.3 engines.

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#4455404 - 07/10/17 03:35 PM Re: Fram Core filters any good [Re: tech230]
FordBroncoVWJeta Offline


Registered: 04/16/16
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Originally Posted By: tech230
Originally Posted By: FordBroncoVWJeta
It seems the core gets the job done. On the 3387a for GM cars they have gone rid of the ecore for a metal tube.

Only would recommend a 3K mile oil change as that was what they are intended for from Walmart TLE.

I'll have to check the newer 3506 & 3675(taller version of the 3506) & see if they got rid of the e-core also. These filters are for the 99-06 full size GM trucks with the 4.8 & 5.3 engines.


We have a paper at TLE that shows what the filter will switch over to. We only carry about 8 filters, But they cover 95% of the cars we do.
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#4455421 - 07/10/17 03:55 PM Re: Fram Core filters any good [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta]
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Registered: 08/27/04
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Loc: Katy, Republic of Texas
Originally Posted By: FordBroncoVWJeta

We have a paper at TLE that shows what the filter will switch over to. We only carry about 8 filters, But they cover 95% of the cars we do.

What do you do for the other 5%? Just go grab a regular Fram off the shelf?

Would be interesting to see that sheet (if not proprietary).
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#4455515 - 07/10/17 05:48 PM Re: Fram Core filters any good [Re: tech230]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1358
Loc: Houston, Texas
Here is what you can expect from an eCore with the combo valve.

AC Delco PF1250 cut & post

Note, I have run several Champ PH820 filters and the filter elements are looking very good. The combo valve does lose the ADBV function before 3000 miles. This is using Motorcraft 5W30 synthetic blend.

Since the Ranger does not seem to care about drain back function, I prefer to run these over a Purolator that tears.

My 2 cents.
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#4455699 - 07/10/17 08:56 PM Re: Fram Core filters any good [Re: tech230]
blupupher Offline


Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 4426
Loc: Katy, Republic of Texas
The e-core I got of my BIL truck looked fine.

LINK

And this one I cut that is of unknown mileage and vehicle looked fine as well.

LINK
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