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#4451903 - 07/06/17 11:34 PM STUPID security certificates
Vern_in_IL Offline


Registered: 06/25/14
Posts: 1884
Loc: IL
IE ask me "this security certificate cannot be verified, do you wish to continue"


I press no.


Screen pops right back up!

again
again'
so now...

I press "N" on the keyboard really fast and close the tab....


This is stupid, I PRESSED NO, AND IT KEEPS ASKING LIKE A RETARD. If I press no, then stop prompting me. Makes me angry.



Edited by Vern_in_IL (07/06/17 11:35 PM)
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#4451906 - 07/06/17 11:38 PM Re: STUPID security certificates [Re: Vern_in_IL]
3800Series Offline


Registered: 08/02/14
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The bigger problem here is IE.

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#4451908 - 07/06/17 11:45 PM Re: STUPID security certificates [Re: Vern_in_IL]
DrRoughneck Offline


Registered: 02/05/16
Posts: 514
Loc: USA
Heard of Chrome?

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#4451909 - 07/06/17 11:46 PM Re: STUPID security certificates [Re: Vern_in_IL]
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Registered: 11/14/08
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+1 on Chrome.

I hate those survey boxes that pop up! mad
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#4451919 - 07/06/17 11:54 PM Re: STUPID security certificates [Re: Vern_in_IL]
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Also be careful of pop ups. Not calling you stupid but a lot of malicious sites like to trick the user into thinking the popup is not from the sites servers (browser based).

The safe thing to do with these kind of popups is just ALT-F4 and close it. Just because the button says no doesn't mean it's no. Just by clicking either button can tell you browser you accepted a possible download thanks to a slight JavaScript edit.

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#4451928 - 07/07/17 12:24 AM Re: STUPID security certificates [Re: 3800Series]
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Registered: 12/31/16
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Originally Posted By: 3800Series

The safe thing to do with these kind of popups is just ALT-F4 and close it. Just because the button says no doesn't mean it's no. Just by clicking either button can tell you browser you accepted a possible download thanks to a slight JavaScript edit.


Agreed - if you can't close it easily, it's likely malware
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#4451940 - 07/07/17 12:51 AM Re: STUPID security certificates [Re: Vern_in_IL]
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Hey!
Check the date and time of your system! Make sure it's correct.
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#4451982 - 07/07/17 05:37 AM Re: STUPID security certificates [Re: Vern_in_IL]
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What you got was a "personal" digital certificate that was signed by an intermediate or root certificate that you do not have in your certificate stor. A personal certificate is the type issued by a CA (certificate authority) to a company. It just happens to be called a personal certificate.

I have seen cases where this type of msg occurs 3 or 4 times in a row but not continuous.

Understanding the flow of digital certificates during the setup of server level authentication is beyond the scope of this forum.
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#4452081 - 07/07/17 07:56 AM Re: STUPID security certificates [Re: Vern_in_IL]
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Why aren't you on Firefox or Chrome by now?

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#4452116 - 07/07/17 08:42 AM Re: STUPID security certificates [Re: Donald]
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Registered: 01/10/08
Posts: 4985
Loc: Milwaukee, WI
Originally Posted By: Donald


Understanding the flow of digital certificates during the setup of server level authentication is beyond the scope of this forum.


Yes, but to expand a little Microsoft has a trusted root certificate program that is actually pretty good. Root authorities like Thawte, Verisign, Symantec, Godaddy sell "leaf" certificates to web sites. Microsoft trusts godaddy -> godaddy trusts my website, so IE connects to it for users everywhere without these warnings.

When a site uses a cert that's not issued by one of these vendors and asks you to install a certificate that should be a huge red flag. Instinct should not be to just continue on. Maybe there were girls in the area looking to chat, I dunno, but it's not worth the risk.

Sure certs are stupid, but they are a necessary evil.

And to the OP's question, it's because the site designer has a page redirecting to another page. The second page has the shady certificate, when you click No you don't want to continue it goes back to the first page... which again redirects you to the second page. Kill IE entirely and rethink your internet browsing habits.

EDIT: I prefer Chrome. These issues exist with all browsers, but I'd agree there is some security benefit to "not IE" browsers.


Edited by bepperb (07/07/17 08:46 AM)
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#4452133 - 07/07/17 09:14 AM Re: STUPID security certificates [Re: bepperb]
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Registered: 04/21/17
Posts: 73
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: bepperb
Originally Posted By: Donald


Understanding the flow of digital certificates during the setup of server level authentication is beyond the scope of this forum.


Yes, but to expand a little Microsoft has a trusted root certificate program that is actually pretty good. Root authorities like Thawte, Verisign, Symantec, Godaddy sell "leaf" certificates to web sites. Microsoft trusts godaddy -> godaddy trusts my website, so IE connects to it for users everywhere without these warnings.

When a site uses a cert that's not issued by one of these vendors and asks you to install a certificate that should be a huge red flag. Instinct should not be to just continue on. Maybe there were girls in the area looking to chat, I dunno, but it's not worth the risk.

Sure certs are stupid, but they are a necessary evil.

And to the OP's question, it's because the site designer has a page redirecting to another page. The second page has the shady certificate, when you click No you don't want to continue it goes back to the first page... which again redirects you to the second page. Kill IE entirely and rethink your internet browsing habits.

EDIT: I prefer Chrome. These issues exist with all browsers, but I'd agree there is some security benefit to "not IE" browsers.


I have to agree, gotten more used to Chrome than Firefox. Haven't used IE in many years.

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#4452143 - 07/07/17 09:29 AM Re: STUPID security certificates [Re: Vern_in_IL]
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Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 12638
Loc: NE,Ohio
What version of IE.. some are a driveby virus or malacious banner ad attack away from taking over your computer even if you dont click anything.
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#4452218 - 07/07/17 10:43 AM Re: STUPID security certificates [Re: Vern_in_IL]
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Posts: 1452
Loc: Gulf Coast, MS
Symantec has problems rubber stamping certificates. More then a few times they have issued some just for users to find out the site was malicious and for a handful of their certificates end up getting revoked.

It's getting so bad Google is considering to blacklist their certificates.

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#4453925 - 07/08/17 11:49 PM Re: STUPID security certificates [Re: Vern_in_IL]
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Registered: 10/06/13
Posts: 793
Loc: Youngstown, NY
calls certificates stupid

uses IE

hmmm
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#4454133 - 07/09/17 09:24 AM Re: STUPID security certificates [Re: Vern_in_IL]
alarmguy Offline


Registered: 07/10/12
Posts: 2147
Loc: South Carolina
Why Chrome? To help google build even a bigger data base on you?

Opera with VPN enabled is the solution.

The world is turning google and MS into mankinds nanny. If I had to choose between the two,k I would choose Microsoft over google.
But I use all of them, Opera is the one of choice.


Edited by alarmguy (07/09/17 09:25 AM)
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