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#4451011 - 07/06/17 07:15 AM Mobil 1 v Super Synthetic?
knerml Offline


Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 480
Loc: NE Ohio
Are there any real benefits using Mobil 1 over Mobil Super Synthetic? Seeing significant prices differences.

Basically, Mobil Oil's web site states that Mobil 1 is better, but is this just hype?

I have two Hyundai/Kias with non-turbo Theta/Theta-II engines. One GDI rural driving 11K miles per year and one normal FI urban driving 8K miles per year.

Both OCIs are <6K miles or 6 months using 5W20 and OEM filters.

Thanks.
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#4451028 - 07/06/17 07:35 AM Re: Mobil 1 v Super Synthetic? [Re: knerml]
tig1 Offline


Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 13661
Loc: Illinois
It's not hype, however SS is no doubt an excellent oil.
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#4451035 - 07/06/17 07:44 AM Re: Mobil 1 v Super Synthetic? [Re: knerml]
ArcticDriver Offline


Registered: 01/27/17
Posts: 1139
Loc: USA
"Super" synthetic?

When are we going to see marketers switch to "Super-Duper" synthetic? Or is that just another name for Amsoil ? grin
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#4451056 - 07/06/17 08:05 AM Re: Mobil 1 v Super Synthetic? [Re: ArcticDriver]
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Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6372
Loc: Texas
It is a product line - some GM V8's will go 300k- 400k on the lower level Mobil Super

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#4451064 - 07/06/17 08:12 AM Re: Mobil 1 v Super Synthetic? [Re: knerml]
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 10022
Loc: ROCHESTER, NY
From the way I understand it, Mobil 1 now has their synthetic oils set up as:

Full GroupIII
GrpIII/PAO(GrpIV)
Full PAO(full GrpIV)

IDK if Mobil 1 has a Group V(ESTER)?
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#4451066 - 07/06/17 08:16 AM Re: Mobil 1 v Super Synthetic? [Re: knerml]
4WD Offline


Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6372
Loc: Texas
I have grabbed MSS on sale a few times ... probably about like another super - super tech wink

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#4451074 - 07/06/17 08:20 AM Re: Mobil 1 v Super Synthetic? [Re: knerml]
Brons2 Offline


Registered: 09/16/03
Posts: 3042
Loc: Austin, Texas
I'm going to be using 5w30 in my Theta II GDI. The owner's manual allows it. The 2011-14 Optimas and Sonatas have connecting rod issues and I'm not going to be taking any chances with 5w20 shearing way down with DI fuel dilution.

If you can get Super Synthetic for a good price, I'd use it. For me M1 is $22.88/5qt at Wallyworld so I'm not sure how much less you're seeing?
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#4451084 - 07/06/17 08:38 AM Re: Mobil 1 v Super Synthetic? [Re: knerml]
Virtus_Probi Offline


Registered: 06/25/15
Posts: 3970
Loc: New England
This chart includes the two Mobils in 5W30, but is, unfortunately, from way back in 2013...sorry that it's also the wrong grade for the OPer, this is the best head to head I've seen for the two.

http://pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/Marchsyntheticsallfinal.html

Both look good by this analysis, but M1 has a little better cold crank performance and a somewhat lower NOACK loss. The Mobil Super is actually quite similar to Kendall GT1 5W30 by this chart, but that doesn't mean they'd necessarily perform the same in a given engine...there is so much that a VOA doesn't tell us.
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#4451100 - 07/06/17 08:57 AM Re: Mobil 1 v Super Synthetic? [Re: knerml]
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Registered: 06/30/11
Posts: 6998
Loc: Mahzurrah!
Since your OCI's are relatively short IMO either would do just fine for you. Super is basically an auto parts store oil though, you can easily get M1 at Wally's for less than they want for Super most of the time.

M1 is the superior oil blend wise, but I doubt it would make any difference at less than 6k OCI's.
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#4451122 - 07/06/17 09:24 AM Re: Mobil 1 v Super Synthetic? [Re: knerml]
Ammofirst Offline


Registered: 06/22/17
Posts: 353
Loc: Western usa
I never see the stuff. Just mobil super 5000 & mobil 1

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#4451135 - 07/06/17 09:48 AM Re: Mobil 1 v Super Synthetic? [Re: knerml]
knerml Offline


Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 480
Loc: NE Ohio
Paid $21 for a case of 6 at BJs
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#4451136 - 07/06/17 09:51 AM Re: Mobil 1 v Super Synthetic? [Re: knerml]
pbm Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7605
Loc: New York
I picked up some SS at last years AZ 'Clearance' for $2 a quart....I'd have no issue running it 7500 miles...maybe more.
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#4451140 - 07/06/17 10:00 AM Re: Mobil 1 v Super Synthetic? [Re: knerml]
knerml Offline


Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 480
Loc: NE Ohio
I'll stick with M1, after I use up the 2 cases.

Been using M1 for decades without any issues.


Edited by knerml (07/06/17 10:03 AM)
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#4451147 - 07/06/17 10:19 AM Re: Mobil 1 v Super Synthetic? [Re: knerml]
69GTX Offline


Registered: 09/23/15
Posts: 3815
Loc: Connecticut
MSS VOA (2013) sort of similar to the SOPUS products. Very different add package vs. Mobil 1 20 and 30 grades.
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#4451156 - 07/06/17 10:28 AM Re: Mobil 1 v Super Synthetic? [Re: knerml]
steve20 Offline


Registered: 06/19/07
Posts: 3475
Loc: Morris County NJ
Originally Posted By: knerml
I'll stick with M1, after I use up the 2 cases.

Been using M1 for decades without any issues.


For a second or so, when I looked over to the left at the post's author, I thought for sure it would be someone else
Steve
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