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Canister filter surprise. Cts 3.6 #4450686
07/05/17 07:02 PM
07/05/17 07:02 PM
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Ohio
fonecord2 Offline OP
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Thoughts on what happened




2006 CTS
2003 Harley Davidson Road King
Re: Canister filter surprise. Cts 3.6 [Re: fonecord2] #4450692
07/05/17 07:06 PM
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San Antonio, TX
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Holy schnikees


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1995 F150 XL 4.9 reg cab 5MT - 251k 5w30
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Re: Canister filter surprise. Cts 3.6 [Re: fonecord2] #4450694
07/05/17 07:07 PM
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Phoenix, Arizona - USA
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Wow... that thing is crushed...

If I were a betting man, I would bet on there being some kind of issue with the engine's oil filter bypass valve.


2010 Ford Fusion SE - 2.5 liter/6F35 Trans - 261,000mi
2014 Nissan Altima SL - 2.5 liter/CVT - 56,000mi
Re: Canister filter surprise. Cts 3.6 [Re: fonecord2] #4450695
07/05/17 07:08 PM
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Do those engines have a bypass in the pump/block? if so it's probably stuck. Used to happen on Ford 3.8s all the time.

Last edited by KingCake; 07/05/17 07:09 PM.
Re: Canister filter surprise. Cts 3.6 [Re: fonecord2] #4450701
07/05/17 07:14 PM
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FL
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Did you install it originally?


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Re: Canister filter surprise. Cts 3.6 [Re: fonecord2] #4450702
07/05/17 07:16 PM
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Houston, Texas
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The bypass valve is stuck and needs to be serviced.

Collapsed filter cause.

Last edited by WellOiled; 07/05/17 07:20 PM.

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Re: Canister filter surprise. Cts 3.6 [Re: fonecord2] #4450703
07/05/17 07:16 PM
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fonecord2 Offline OP
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Is there a fix for the bypass?


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2003 Harley Davidson Road King
Re: Canister filter surprise. Cts 3.6 [Re: fonecord2] #4450704
07/05/17 07:18 PM
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Did you experience any issues?

GM's and non AC Delco cartridge filters never seem to go well together.


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Re: Canister filter surprise. Cts 3.6 [Re: dlundblad] #4450705
07/05/17 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Did you experience any issues?

GM's and non AC Delco cartridge filters never seem to go well together.


I'd say he experienced an issue when he took that filter out

Re: Canister filter surprise. Cts 3.6 [Re: KingCake] #4450719
07/05/17 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: KingCake
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Did you experience any issues?

GM's and non AC Delco cartridge filters never seem to go well together.


I'd say he experienced an issue when he took that filter out


And what issue would that have been? Cardiac arrest, nausea, high blood pressure, etc.?


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02 Volvo S60 2.4T 177k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 149k Rotella T5 10w30 Supertech ST3980

Re: Canister filter surprise. Cts 3.6 [Re: fonecord2] #4450723
07/05/17 07:37 PM
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Lyndhurst NJ
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Is it even the right filter? Maybe it was too long and got crushed when they tightened thecap?


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Re: Canister filter surprise. Cts 3.6 [Re: fonecord2] #4450730
07/05/17 07:44 PM
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USA
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Yuck oilburner

Interesting to see a cartridge with metal end caps. A lot of the aftermarket cartridges like Fram and Purolator are a bit too long, so they buckle in service. I also notice it says CH8765AZ. Did you buy it at Autozone? Sometimes they are made differently for different stores, like Walmart and Autozone.

Fram does make an Ultra for this application, and it's made in the USA. But my choice would be Mahle, unless you want a wire-backed synthetic like Fram Ultra or Wix XP.

part number, end caps, COO
Fram XG8765, plastic, USA
Wix 57090, metal, Poland (Napa Gold 7090)
Wix 57090XP, plastic, Poland (Napa Platinum 47090)
Mahle OX399D, plastic, Germany

How long was your OCI? Is it what the MM dictated? What kind of oil did you use, and what did you replace it with?

Thank you for posting thumbsup

Re: Canister filter surprise. Cts 3.6 [Re: mcrn] #4450737
07/05/17 07:48 PM
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fonecord2 Offline OP
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I just purchased the car


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Re: Canister filter surprise. Cts 3.6 [Re: fonecord2] #4450748
07/05/17 07:55 PM
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Houston, Texas
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I am sorry to tell you it was neglected.


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Re: Canister filter surprise. Cts 3.6 [Re: fonecord2] #4450750
07/05/17 07:56 PM
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Idaho
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FRAM made in China. The filter says it all.


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