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#4448107 - 07/03/17 08:43 AM New Supertech 80-140 looks Used
fozzdesy2001 Offline


Registered: 11/22/13
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I don't know about the rest of the BITOG crowd but when I have new oil I expect it to look new, meaning not black like it has been run a million hours and needs to be changed. I bought 3 quarts of Supertech 80-140 (dino cheap stuff) gear oil for an old tiller transmission and was very surprised when the new oil looked worse than the old stuff that came out. I know the color is not to be used when determining an oil's condition but compared to all other gear oils I have ever used the Walmart stuff is abyss black. I will not use this in anything again, ponying up the little extra coin for AAP house brand is worth it for me because the color is golden/honey new. I searched and did to see if this molasses dark matter was always the same and only found threads about the synthetic versions. I did not find anything about the conventional (dino) oil color.
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#4448111 - 07/03/17 08:47 AM Re: New Supertech 80-140 looks Used [Re: fozzdesy2001]
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A picture of the oil would help a great deal.
I'm no ST. fan.

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#4448118 - 07/03/17 08:51 AM Re: New Supertech 80-140 looks Used [Re: fozzdesy2001]
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#4448121 - 07/03/17 08:53 AM Re: New Supertech 80-140 looks Used [Re: fozzdesy2001]
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If it was used, then that's a problem. But if not then the color is not a valid reason to reject an oil.
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#4448134 - 07/03/17 09:04 AM Re: New Supertech 80-140 looks Used [Re: fozzdesy2001]
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The certainly does not sound right. No new oil should be darker than a deep gold. I'd say someone pulled a fast one on Walmart and returned used oil. Were the bottles sealed?

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#4448136 - 07/03/17 09:04 AM Re: New Supertech 80-140 looks Used [Re: fozzdesy2001]
Padawan Offline


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All of the Super Tech gear oil I've used has had a foil seal, and I've always had good results with it.

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#4448151 - 07/03/17 09:28 AM Re: New Supertech 80-140 looks Used [Re: AirgunSavant]
fozzdesy2001 Offline


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Originally Posted By: AirgunSavant
A picture of the oil would help a great deal.
I'm no ST. fan.


I used all I had so I have nothing to take a picture of, sorry.
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#4448157 - 07/03/17 09:36 AM Re: New Supertech 80-140 looks Used [Re: Padawan]
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Originally Posted By: Padawan
All of the Super Tech gear oil I've used has had a foil seal, and I've always had good results with it.


"The certainly does not sound right. No new oil should be darker than a deep gold. I'd say someone pulled a fast one on Walmart and returned used oil. Were the bottles sealed?"

The bottles had the seal (really good seal too). For around 4 bucks a quart I don't think people would put that much work into a swap. I agree it doesn't look right but it will be OK for the tiller.
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#4448178 - 07/03/17 09:57 AM Re: New Supertech 80-140 looks Used [Re: fozzdesy2001]
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Don't be sorry. I know you were in a hurry but you probably should have not used it if it bothers you.
As they said here it should have been sealed. Good luck.
I have purchased generic gear oil for lathe use etc and it can be very dark. It may not be an issue if clean.

Originally Posted By: fozzdesy2001
Originally Posted By: AirgunSavant
A picture of the oil would help a great deal.
I'm no ST. fan.


I used all I had so I have nothing to take a picture of, sorry.

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#4448189 - 07/03/17 10:14 AM Re: New Supertech 80-140 looks Used [Re: fozzdesy2001]
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Was the bottles sealed? I remember hearing a story of someone buying used oil from walmart.....apparently it was returned and they just put it back on the shelf.
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#4448193 - 07/03/17 10:19 AM Re: New Supertech 80-140 looks Used [Re: fozzdesy2001]
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Yeah seen people return used oil before in the jug. One guy got a jug full of water which is worse than used oil.
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#4448219 - 07/03/17 10:46 AM Re: New Supertech 80-140 looks Used [Re: fozzdesy2001]
Padawan Offline


Registered: 08/24/08
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Here's a video that shows how (in my experience) the Super Tech 85W-140 typically looks when new:



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#4448222 - 07/03/17 10:48 AM Re: New Supertech 80-140 looks Used [Re: fozzdesy2001]
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Registered: 11/22/13
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Loc: York, Pa
OK, the bottles were sealed and after closer examination of the few drops that came out of the bottles on clean white paper towels, the color is very dark brown. Still a lot darker than what I am used to seeing. For this application, it will be acceptable with the 4 hours of yearly use in my gardens. For my cars, I use Mobil 1 104361 75W-90 or 102490 75W-140 and will try Schaeffer Manufacturing 2937590-012S Supreme Gear Lube 75W-90 next. I just wanted to let others know about how dark the ST is. Thank you for the video - that is the same is what I used looks the same on a towel. Guess I am used to Mobil 1.


Edited by fozzdesy2001 (07/03/17 10:52 AM)
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