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Amsoil 5W30 Dark? #4447927
07/02/17 11:25 PM
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hinrg916 Offline OP
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Hello Friends,

I have been using Amsoil 5W30 Signature series in my '07 Altima for some time. Normally, I purchase from Amsoil online but this time needed to do an oil change asap. For the first time, I tried an Amsoil seller who works out of his home and purchased 2 1-gallon jugs. I got home and did my oil change but noticed the oil seemed a lot darker than normal. From my experience, this oil should be a light golden color but this time it seemed much darker. It is weird because the aluminum seals were on the jugs. I am a little paranoid now because I know it is fairly easy to install the seals and make things look new, especially for an experienced dealer.

Can anyone who uses this oil help verify I am not going crazy with the color of this oil??? Thank you.


Re: Amsoil 5W30 Dark? [Re: hinrg916] #4447938
07/02/17 11:41 PM
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I'm sure it's fine if it was sealed


2012 Chevy Cruze LT 1.4T - 50k
2002 Buick Century 130k - Built 4T65e(Maxlife) - Edge 0w40 + Fram XG3980
Re: Amsoil 5W30 Dark? [Re: hinrg916] #4447963
07/03/17 12:49 AM
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I've had some look like that also and was ordered from Amsoil. I wouldn't worry about it


1982 Chevy C10, 212k
1988 Buick Estate Wagon
2005 Ford Mustang V6, 142k, Amsoil 10W30
2010 Ram 1500 HEMI, 120k Amsoil 5W30
2016 Traverse, Schaeffers 9000
Re: Amsoil 5W30 Dark? [Re: hinrg916] #4448091
07/03/17 08:22 AM
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I seem to remember my Amsoil 5W-30 looking fairly dark when new when I bought some years ago (2007 or 2008, maybe?). Granted, formulations may have changed by then, but I wouldn't be worried about it. It certainly doesn't look used.


07 Honda Accord - 606k - Havoline High Mileage 5W-20/Purolator Synthetic PSL14610
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Re: Amsoil 5W30 Dark? [Re: hinrg916] #4448138
07/03/17 09:08 AM
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In the photo below qsud 10w30 is in middle.
On the sides are qsad 10w30 and qs sae 30.
Gtl seems to be darker in color.
Pp 10w30 also has color identical to qsud 10w30




Last edited by merconvvv; 07/03/17 09:09 AM.

1988 Mazda RX7 na PP 10w30 Noack 4.7
1994 Chrysler Concorde 3.3
1999 Ford Expedition 4.6 QSUD 10W30 NOACK 5.0
Re: Amsoil 5W30 Dark? [Re: hinrg916] #4448142
07/03/17 09:16 AM
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Amsoil changes formulations as needed and it can happen at any time. I wouldn't be worried about it.


2015 RAM SXT Crew Cab 5.7 with 6 speed tranny.

2008 Mazda 3 GS Sport Hatchback 5sp MT (Girlfriend's car)

Re: Amsoil 5W30 Dark? [Re: hinrg916] #4448147
07/03/17 09:21 AM
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It's not the base oil that gives fresh engine oil its colour; it's the components in the DI pack.

Overbased metallic detergents tend to an oak brown colour. Ashless Dispersants are reddish brown. ZDDP and Phenolic Antioxidants are typically pale yellow. Aminic Antioxidants can be a fleshly pink. Moly tends to be a black, dark purple colour. Be aware that the colour of a DI pack is never a controlled parameter and you can get batch to batch variations.

Re: Amsoil 5W30 Dark? [Re: hinrg916] #4448156
07/03/17 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted By: hinrg916
I am a little paranoid now because I know it is fairly easy to install the seals and make things look new, especially for an experienced dealer.
They would have to carefully remove the Al seal with an Xacto knife I suppose, then re-seal with a bead of glue. Does sound possible. Maybe the frangible plastic collars on 5-quart jugs we see from Walmart are better for anti-fraud. Interesting.

Put a sample in the freezer overnight (about 0 deg F) next to a sample of Amsoil from a single bottle, and compare flow over a flat plate. Or even use Mobil1 or any full syn as the control if you don't have another Amsoil handy. A conventional should be noticeably thicker.
Or do a VOA or even a UOA and check the additive package against recent Amsoil UOA/VOAs for amounts of moly and boron.

Re: Amsoil 5W30 Dark? [Re: hinrg916] #4448218
07/03/17 10:44 AM
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Send the picture to Amsoil over email for the real answer,

Re: Amsoil 5W30 Dark? [Re: hinrg916] #4448414
07/03/17 02:49 PM
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hinrg916 Offline OP
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Thanks everyone for your reply. If Amsoil changed the formula it would have occurred within the past 9 months. Like I said, I do not remember seeing this oil nowhere near this color.

I will send a photo to Amsoil directly and advise what they say. Thanks again and hope you all have an awesome Fourth of July.

Re: Amsoil 5W30 Dark? [Re: hinrg916] #4448573
07/03/17 05:49 PM
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How hard would it be to make up a label and stick it on a Walmart 10W30 bottle? Did your car run better after the oil change?

Re: Amsoil 5W30 Dark? [Re: userfriendly] #4449229
07/04/17 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted By: userfriendly
How hard would it be to make up a label and stick it on a Walmart 10W30 bottle? Did your car run better after the oil change?

thankfully the jug and bottle shapes are unique.

Did your car run better.... ha-ha ... Some people reading that might actually think you weren't joking.

Re: Amsoil 5W30 Dark? [Re: merconvvv] #4449232
07/04/17 10:06 AM
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I'd be suspicious of anybody selling me oil in Coke bottles. Especially if the seller is missing some teeth too & smiling real big.... Dude, really?

Originally Posted By: merconvvv


Last edited by oil_film_movies; 07/04/17 10:10 AM.
Re: Amsoil 5W30 Dark? [Re: hinrg916] #4449236
07/04/17 10:08 AM
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Well it's either counterfeit Amsoil, or what SonofJoe said. I think SonofJoe nailed it.


God Bless Our Troops

Re: Amsoil 5W30 Dark? [Re: oil_film_movies] #4449279
07/04/17 10:44 AM
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Diet Coke at that so could be 0w20 wink

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