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2017 J.D. Power Rankings #4438142
06/22/17 01:07 AM
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'13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: EDGE 5w30
Re: 2017 J.D. Power Rankings [Re: wemay] #4438145
06/22/17 01:35 AM
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Kia and Hyundai are really starting to impress me, forever a Toyota guy though. Surprised by its rankings....as well as MINI. The 2 mine's I've had needed new engines sub 30k miles...


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Re: 2017 J.D. Power Rankings [Re: wemay] #4438146
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Re: 2017 J.D. Power Rankings [Re: wemay] #4438159
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Lexus has been at or near the top for many years. I am surprised to see them right below the industry average.


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Re: 2017 J.D. Power Rankings [Re: wemay] #4438180
06/22/17 05:25 AM
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Nice!!!

Re: 2017 J.D. Power Rankings [Re: wemay] #4438184
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I'm a long time ford and toyota guy. I usually own one of each at any given time. And I'm surprised by this chart. Seem like [censored] to me. They should be swapped imo.

Re: 2017 J.D. Power Rankings [Re: wemay] #4438187
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Funny the regular MOPAR bashers haven't commented yet with RAM in between Ford and BMW.

I thought this site was in consensus about that RAM junk!!!


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Re: 2017 J.D. Power Rankings [Re: SteveSRT8] #4438193
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Funny the regular MOPAR bashers haven't commented yet with RAM in between Ford and BMW.

I thought this site was in consensus about that RAM junk!!!

Who bashes RAM specifically? I do see, however, that Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, and Fiat are wayyyy down the list.

You'd have to be crazy to screw up trucks in the US.


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Re: 2017 J.D. Power Rankings [Re: SteveSRT8] #4438200
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Bashing on BITOG is not how often, but often how ...

Re: 2017 J.D. Power Rankings [Re: SteveSRT8] #4438203
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Funny the regular MOPAR bashers haven't commented yet with RAM in between Ford and BMW.

I thought this site was in consensus about that RAM junk!!!


I'm surprised about that. But this is only for initial quality.

Their trucks have always been junk. But I guess now that so little of them is Mopar (Aisin transmissions, ZF Transmissions, not Mopar Axles, Cummins engines, etc) and it's basically the same thing for the past God knows how many years that reliability has to go up. But they still are the least capable of the Big 3 trucks, especially the 1/2 tons.

But good for them for finally figuring out how to build one. Only took them what, 80 years, 2 bailouts, and what 3 owners?

Re: 2017 J.D. Power Rankings [Re: itguy08] #4438204
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You can't say that about the RAM 3500 - that's one heavyweight ...

Re: 2017 J.D. Power Rankings [Re: 4WD] #4438209
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Originally Posted By: 4WD
You can't say that about the RAM 3500 - that's one heavyweight ...


As are the GM and Ford equivalents.

Last edited by itguy08; 06/22/17 06:12 AM.
Re: 2017 J.D. Power Rankings [Re: wemay] #4438238
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This chart is designed with two things in mind: 1) make the people that own the top ranking brands feel good about themselves and approve this "study" 2) get the people that own the bottom ranking brands upset and dismiss this "study" or seriously question it.

It doesn't matter what brand is where, or whether this supposed study has any merit in reality. As long as two opposing camps are formed and start arguing, thus creating traffic, public awareness etc. That's their goal, create controversy, grab media and public attention and make money doing so. Rinse and repeat.


2015 Dodge Grand Caravan-27k miles.
2006 Mazda 3-163k miles
Re: 2017 J.D. Power Rankings [Re: wemay] #4438245
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This survey covers the first 90 days of ownership, only iirc. Nice to be high in the ranking but really doesn't have much bearing on what problems may crop up a few years down the road.

And if this survey is like most others, "problems" may include owner confusion about technology.

Re: 2017 J.D. Power Rankings [Re: wemay] #4438261
06/22/17 07:35 AM
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JD Power is worthless in my opinion.

I'm into VW's and don't care much for Toyota's. Yes, VW is ranked better than the Toyota by two points in the first 90 days of ownership, but even I know long term Toyota will fair better.


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