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Valvoline Max Life vs Castrol Edge High Mileage? #4436983
06/20/17 05:12 PM
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So I am trying to get opinions on these 2 oils, currently using Valvoline Max Life 10W40 and am thinking about my next oil change, saw a VOA that seemed pretty promising for Castrol Edge High Mileage 10W40. What do you guys think? Anyone seen a black stone labs VOA for the castrol oil?

Oil is for a 1987 Honda CRX Si with just over 199,000 miles.

For reference:

VOA for Valvoline Max Life 10w40:


VOA for Castrol Edge High Mileage 10w40, didn't see a Black Stone Labs one:

Text for Castrol
Silicon 5.4
Potassium 2.2
Water (%) <0.1

Boron 370
Barium 0.0
Calcium 3097
Magnesium 10
Molybdenum 75
Sodium 2.8
Phosphorus 700
Sulfur 3068
Zinc 738
[email protected]C 91.52 cSt
[email protected]C 14.6 cSt
Visc Index 166
Oxidation --- ---
TAN 1.62
TBN 10.0

Iron 1.2
Nickel 0.5
Chromium 0.1
Titanium 14
Copper 0.0
Aluminum 2.8
Tin 0.0
Lead 0.0

Last edited by gryffinwings; 06/20/17 05:15 PM.

1987 Honda CRX Si
2015 BMW 320i
2016 Toyota Tundra
Re: Valvoline Max Life vs Castrol Edge High Mileage? [Re: gryffinwings] #4436985
06/20/17 05:16 PM
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That is a lot of calcium in the Edge... not great for some applications.

The castrol is a bit harder to find for me and seems more expensive.

My plan would be to use M1 10w40 as its more commonly available, not super high in calcium, moderately priced, and is a full synthetic. I believe the Valvoline is a blend?

Last edited by FlyPenFly; 06/20/17 05:17 PM.

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Re: Valvoline Max Life vs Castrol Edge High Mileage? [Re: FlyPenFly] #4437002
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Originally Posted By: FlyPenFly
That is a lot of calcium in the Edge... not great for some applications.

The castrol is a bit harder to find for me and seems more expensive.

My plan would be to use M1 10w40 as its more commonly available, not super high in calcium, moderately priced, and is a full synthetic. I believe the Valvoline is a blend?


Why would calcium be not so great?

Here's Mobil 1 High Mileage 10W40 from 2011, is it still the same?


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2015 BMW 320i
2016 Toyota Tundra
Re: Valvoline Max Life vs Castrol Edge High Mileage? [Re: gryffinwings] #4437004
06/20/17 05:41 PM
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High calcium can contribute to LSPI in DI engines. Nothing to be concerned about in your '87 crx.


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'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
'18 Charger SRT (PUP 0W-40 SRT)
Re: Valvoline Max Life vs Castrol Edge High Mileage? [Re: gryffinwings] #4437013
06/20/17 05:59 PM
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Either is fine. I prefer VML.


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Re: Valvoline Max Life vs Castrol Edge High Mileage? [Re: gryffinwings] #4437065
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I'd choose the Castrol.


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Re: Valvoline Max Life vs Castrol Edge High Mileage? [Re: aquariuscsm] #4437231
06/21/17 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
I'd choose the Castrol.


Seconded. Max Life has always had a stellar reputation but it's never impressed me in any of my applications. It doesn't run quieter, it doesn't swell seals or noticeably slow down minor leaks, it doesn't appear to do any sort of intense cleaning.

However, I've seen these benefits to one degree or another with Castrol GTX and Edge High Mileage. They seem to perform as well as Royal Purple HMX (the only other HM oil I've had success with) but at a fraction of the cost.

Re: Valvoline Max Life vs Castrol Edge High Mileage? [Re: BironDanmum] #4437340
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Originally Posted By: BironDanmum
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
I'd choose the Castrol.


Seconded. Max Life has always had a stellar reputation but it's never impressed me in any of my applications. It doesn't run quieter, it doesn't swell seals or noticeably slow down minor leaks, it doesn't appear to do any sort of intense cleaning.

However, I've seen these benefits to one degree or another with Castrol GTX and Edge High Mileage. They seem to perform as well as Royal Purple HMX (the only other HM oil I've had success with) but at a fraction of the cost.


I think your right, my engine is burning oil and I'm not sure it's doing much. The VA for Maxlife looks rather underwhelming, maybe I'm not seeing it.


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2015 BMW 320i
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Re: Valvoline Max Life vs Castrol Edge High Mileage? [Re: gryffinwings] #4437393
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Maxlife also comes in a full syn... Remember it takes a few OCI's to see any results in a HM oil. Maxlife has always performed well for me in many older higher mileage vehicles. I have tried Mobil 1 HM and it did not seem to work any better then Maxlife and actually it never helped with minor leaks or oil burning.


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Re: Valvoline Max Life vs Castrol Edge High Mileage? [Re: gryffinwings] #4437481
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Im on my second OCI with Edge HM. So far no noticeable improvement in either leaks or consumption.


'02 530i (Edge 0W-40)
'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
'18 Charger SRT (PUP 0W-40 SRT)
Re: Valvoline Max Life vs Castrol Edge High Mileage? [Re: Boss302fan] #4437683
06/21/17 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: Boss302fan
Maxlife also comes in a full syn... Remember it takes a few OCI's to see any results in a HM oil. Maxlife has always performed well for me in many older higher mileage vehicles. I have tried Mobil 1 HM and it did not seem to work any better then Maxlife and actually it never helped with minor leaks or oil burning.


Not in 10w40 I believe.


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Re: Valvoline Max Life vs Castrol Edge High Mileage? [Re: FlyPenFly] #4437786
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Originally Posted By: FlyPenFly
Originally Posted By: Boss302fan
Maxlife also comes in a full syn... Remember it takes a few OCI's to see any results in a HM oil. Maxlife has always performed well for me in many older higher mileage vehicles. I have tried Mobil 1 HM and it did not seem to work any better then Maxlife and actually it never helped with minor leaks or oil burning.


Not in 10w40 I believe.


Your right, 10w40 is going to be Maxlife Synthetic Blend.

Anyways it's hard to make a decision, I'm thinking Maxlife because I'm going to do some short interval changes for cleaning purposes.


1987 Honda CRX Si
2015 BMW 320i
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Re: Valvoline Max Life vs Castrol Edge High Mileage? [Re: gryffinwings] #4437866
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Try the 10w-30


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 181 miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: Valvoline Max Life vs Castrol Edge High Mileage? [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4438005
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Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
Try the 10w-30


Not exactly the best thing to use on my 1987 Honda CRX Si with 199,000 miles on it, the manual says to use 10W40 for my type of weather, which means I don't go below 0 degrees.


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