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#4436290 - 06/19/17 09:40 PM New Springfield XD-E
Tobin28 Offline


Registered: 07/25/16
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Loc: California
Does anyone know if this is legal in California?

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#4436330 - 06/19/17 10:30 PM Re: New Springfield XD-E [Re: Tobin28]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
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Made in croatia?

Single stack? So limited rounds?

I only had a cursory look at the website...

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#4436347 - 06/19/17 11:22 PM Re: New Springfield XD-E [Re: Tobin28]
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https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4391510


I doubt it's going to be on the approved list so quickly
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#4436499 - 06/20/17 07:53 AM Re: New Springfield XD-E [Re: JHZR2]
Triple_Se7en Offline


Registered: 12/04/04
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Loc: 1/2 hr. north of Detroit
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Made in croatia?

Single stack? So limited rounds?

I only had a cursory look at the website...


Conflicts generally end in three rounds or less. Unless you are a law enforcer, why do you need double-digit mag(s), weighed down, thick handguns? Are you expecting an Apocalypse that no one here knows about?

Single-stack, lightweight and easily concealed are the new norm. As far as SA/DA triggers go (XD-E), I personally hate them. I much prefer buying either SA or DAOs. I want my pistol trigger to behave the same 24/7.


Edited by Triple_Se7en (06/20/17 07:59 AM)

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#4436516 - 06/20/17 08:22 AM Re: New Springfield XD-E [Re: Triple_Se7en]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
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Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Made in croatia?

Single stack? So limited rounds?

I only had a cursory look at the website...


Conflicts generally end in three rounds or less. Unless you are a law enforcer, why do you need double-digit mag(s), weighed down, thick handguns? Are you expecting an Apocalypse that no one here knows about?

Single-stack, lightweight and easily concealed are the new norm. As far as SA/DA triggers go (XD-E), I personally hate them. I much prefer buying either SA or DAOs. I want my pistol trigger to behave the same 24/7.


Why did you read anything in to what I said?

California has found limits for guns, no?

So a single stack with fewer rounds could well be an advantage for being CA legal, no??

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#4436523 - 06/20/17 08:30 AM Re: New Springfield XD-E [Re: Triple_Se7en]
billt460 Offline


Registered: 03/30/15
Posts: 4384
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Single-stack, lightweight and easily concealed are the new norm.


1.) First "Norm" = 6-shot revolvers.

2.) Second "Norm" = Double stack 15+ shot 9 MM semi auto's.

3.) Third and "New Norm" = Back down to under 9 shot, single stack 9 MM Semi's.

4.) Fourth, and possible up and coming "Future Norm" = Back to 6-shot revolvers??...... But only with Pink grips and Polymer frames?

Sounds a lot like women's shoes. Don't sell or replace them. Just wait for them to come back, "in style".

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#4437134 - 06/20/17 09:33 PM Re: New Springfield XD-E [Re: Tobin28]
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I'm not an expert on all the ridiculous CA gun laws since I don't live there, but I don't believe the XD-E has a magazine disconnect. From what I understand, that means it's not CA legal.

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#4437146 - 06/20/17 09:42 PM Re: New Springfield XD-E [Re: Tobin28]
JHZR2 Offline



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Well that comes back to the premise that if its easy and more comfortable, then more people will partake. I get that.

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#4437335 - 06/21/17 07:36 AM Re: New Springfield XD-E [Re: Tobin28]
JDM396 Offline


Registered: 01/11/17
Posts: 187
Loc: Oklahoma
Yeah the whole relying on 3 shots or less thing is retarded. I don't carry 15 rounds constantly, but I do know that the number of multiple assailant attacks is skyrocketing. Carry accordingly.

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#4437496 - 06/21/17 11:01 AM Re: New Springfield XD-E [Re: JDM396]
billt460 Offline


Registered: 03/30/15
Posts: 4384
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
Originally Posted By: JDM396
Yeah the whole relying on 3 shots or less thing is retarded. I don't carry 15 rounds constantly, but I do know that the number of multiple assailant attacks is skyrocketing. Carry accordingly.


I've got to 100% agree with you there. I've never had anyone yet convince me that less ammunition was an advantage.

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#4437564 - 06/21/17 12:09 PM Re: New Springfield XD-E [Re: JDM396]
Al Offline


Registered: 06/08/02
Posts: 18033
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Originally Posted By: JDM396
Yeah the whole relying on 3 shots or less thing is retarded. I don't carry 15 rounds constantly, but I do know that the number of multiple assailant attacks is skyrocketing. Carry accordingly.

Anyone that has not had a lot of SD training is not capable of accurately and safely (for bystanders) squeezing off two bursts of 3 shots. And even with good SD training many of those will be over their head. No one says fewer is an advantage...but it goes in with the mindset that every piece of lead you put out there may be a danger to others.

With my life style I can not even comprehend "needing" more than 6+1. But again...highly trained internet people would disagree.
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#4438242 - 06/22/17 07:16 AM Re: New Springfield XD-E [Re: Tobin28]
Excel Offline


Registered: 12/25/15
Posts: 148
Loc: Memphis TN
All mfgs are adding striker firing to the line up
Springer adds a hammer.......Go Figure !

Not a big fan of springer poly pistols but this one looks
worthy of a try
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#4438262 - 06/22/17 07:35 AM Re: New Springfield XD-E [Re: Al]
JDM396 Offline


Registered: 01/11/17
Posts: 187
Loc: Oklahoma
Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: JDM396
Yeah the whole relying on 3 shots or less thing is retarded. I don't carry 15 rounds constantly, but I do know that the number of multiple assailant attacks is skyrocketing. Carry accordingly.

Anyone that has not had a lot of SD training is not capable of accurately and safely (for bystanders) squeezing off two bursts of 3 shots. And even with good SD training many of those will be over their head. No one says fewer is an advantage...but it goes in with the mindset that every piece of lead you put out there may be a danger to others.

With my life style I can not even comprehend "needing" more than 6+1. But again...highly trained internet people would disagree.


You don't know what people can or can't do, every situation is different. Could be close range with multiple attackers and no bystanders, could be one with multiple people around. I've NEVER heard an accredited instructor say "hey just carry 6... you'll be fine." Typically any instructor worth their salt relays to carry the platform you are most comfortable with and dress around it, not the other way around. If you are comfy with ~6 rounds then great, but don't validate this by acting superior because you're not.

"Highly trained internet people" such as yourself? Given that you typically interject your training experiences in several posts. Of which, honestly, I find remedial, given my experiences and training. The notion that "life style" has anything to do with a dangerous encounter is extremely na´ve. Anything can happen at any give moment.

Let me give you a scenario of that individual that used an AR-15 against 3 intruders recently. He lived in a fairly nice neighborhood that was VERY quiet. Their "life style" would entail that they were never in danger, or by your theory, not need an AR-15. Obviously, not a carry situation, but the understanding that too much gun is never an issue holds true. All things being equal that is.

People can address their situation and do what's best for them, from a Derringer to something with 15+ rounds with a backup mag or BUG, carry for your needs. However, don't preach about the dangers of your fears of shooting someone else with more rounds. It's noted for YOU and whomever teaches you, as it might be a problem for your level of training. Nonetheless, it doesn't negate a growing reality that multiple attackers are becoming the norm. If you want to stop multiple threats you'd better have capacity. If you believe this will never happen, more power to you.


Edited by JDM396 (06/22/17 07:36 AM)

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#4438303 - 06/22/17 08:27 AM Re: New Springfield XD-E [Re: JDM396]
Triple_Se7en Offline


Registered: 12/04/04
Posts: 8751
Loc: 1/2 hr. north of Detroit
JDM
Your instructor is either military or an ex-cop most likely. That's why they tell you that.
What they don;t tell you is that the average shots fired in an average-Joe conflict is three shots.

If you want to lug heavy and large, knock yourself out. Not I.

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#4438399 - 06/22/17 10:06 AM Re: New Springfield XD-E [Re: Tobin28]
Robenstein Offline


Registered: 12/23/09
Posts: 5653
Loc: Central IA
Originally Posted By: Tobin28
Does anyone know if this is legal in California?


It doesn't microstamp so....no. The reason the roster of approved handguns is shrinking because of this requirement.
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