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Oil wt for a 2012 MB C300 #4435081
06/18/17 11:06 AM
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For the time being I am driving my grand daughter's C300 V6, and was wondering what wt of M1 does this car call for? Nothing is on the oil cap, which is a mistake. Thanks for the input.

Last edited by tig1; 06/18/17 11:13 AM.

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Re: Oil wt for a 2012 MB C300 [Re: tig1] #4435092
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0w40 is the go-to Euro car M1 oil

Re: Oil wt for a 2012 MB C300 [Re: tig1] #4435096
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Probably 0W-40 would be the best.
Also Tig1, do you ever use or recomend anything other than M1? i have never seen someone so religiously devoted to any brand, ever.


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Re: Oil wt for a 2012 MB C300 [Re: tig1] #4435099
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Originally Posted By: tig1
For the time being I am driving my grand daughter's C300 V6, and was wondering what wt of M1 does this car call for? Nothing is on the oil cap, which is a mistake. Thanks for the input.


anything carrying MB229.5


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Re: Oil wt for a 2012 MB C300 [Re: tig1] #4435108
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Originally Posted By: tig1
For the time being I am driving my grand daughter's C300 V6, and was wondering what wt of M1 does this car call for? Nothing is on the oil cap, which is a mistake.

It's not a mistake. MB doesn't call for any one specific grade of oil. It calls for an oil meeting MB 229.5 spec, and as such it could be 0w-30, 5w-30, 0w-40, 5w-40, etc.

The spec is key. The grade is secondary.


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Re: Oil wt for a 2012 MB C300 [Re: tig1] #4435126
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Gas or diesel?

Not sure you need to run 229.5X in a gasoline car, but I only own MB diesels.

Would love to hear why if they spec low sp ash oil for a gas auto.


UD

Last edited by UncleDave; 06/18/17 11:53 AM.

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Re: Oil wt for a 2012 MB C300 [Re: tig1] #4435129
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229.5 is high saps!


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Re: Oil wt for a 2012 MB C300 [Re: Jetronic] #4435131
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Maybe I mixed my saps!

Thought the DPF vehicles needed low saps for the DPF longevity.

UD

Last edited by UncleDave; 06/18/17 11:56 AM.

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Re: Oil wt for a 2012 MB C300 [Re: tig1] #4435133
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Lots of choices according to the manufacturer






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Re: Oil wt for a 2012 MB C300 [Re: UncleDave] #4435138
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Originally Posted By: UncleDave
Maybe I mixed my saps!

Thought the DPF vehicles needed low saps for the DPF longevity.

UD


229.51 is mid-saps, 229.52 is low-saps


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Re: Oil wt for a 2012 MB C300 [Re: Jetronic] #4435141
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I don't recall saps being different between 229.51 and 229.52

I was in a thread here Ill try to find.

- just went back the oxidation spec is the only diff between these 2.


UD

Last edited by UncleDave; 06/18/17 12:10 PM.

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Re: Oil wt for a 2012 MB C300 [Re: Jetronic] #4435152
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Re: Oil wt for a 2012 MB C300 [Re: UncleDave] #4435167
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Originally Posted By: UncleDave
I don't recall saps being different between 229.51 and 229.52

I was in a thread here Ill try to find.

- just went back the oxidation spec is the only diff between these 2.


UD


MB 229.52
Oils meeting this specifications must have lower ash content, at least 1% better fuel economy compared to the requirements of MB 229.31 and MB 229.51 and better oxidation stability for biofuel compatibility. Can also be used where an MB 229.31 or an MB 229.51 oil is required. Just like MB 229.5 and MB 229.51 this spec requires a long life oil.


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Re: Oil wt for a 2012 MB C300 [Re: Jetronic] #4435179
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There is a big gap between 229.31 and the .5X's

Both 229.51 and 229.52 have the same sulphated ash limit (0.8 max).

Quattro Pete has done pretty good research on this here, but love to see your link.

I have two vehicle that call for 229.52 and its a royal pain to find.



UD


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Re: Oil wt for a 2012 MB C300 [Re: UncleDave] #4435183
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Originally Posted By: UncleDave

There is a big gap between 229.31 and the .5X's

Both 229.51 and 229.52 have the same sulphated ash limit (0.8 max).

Quattro Pete has done pretty good research on this here, but love to see your link.
I have two vehicle that call for 229.52 and its a royal pain to find.

OP has a gasoline engine, and as such it requires MB 229.5 spec. Not 229.51 and not 229.52.

229.5 is a full SAPS spec.




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