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#4434901 - 06/18/17 07:49 AM Any decent second tier tires for my car
ram_man Offline


Registered: 03/15/13
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I currently have the tiger paw gtz they handle great but they rode so rough. What would be something that still handles good but rides a little smoother that won't break the bank size is 225/40/r18
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#4434902 - 06/18/17 07:57 AM Re: Any decent second tier tires for my car [Re: ram_man]
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#4434903 - 06/18/17 07:57 AM Re: Any decent second tier tires for my car [Re: ram_man]
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#4434918 - 06/18/17 08:37 AM Re: Any decent second tier tires for my car [Re: ram_man]
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A rough ride might be an issue with any 40 series tires.
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#4434920 - 06/18/17 08:39 AM Re: Any decent second tier tires for my car [Re: ram_man]
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Something I don't skimp on is the "friction" aspect of my cars: shocks, brakes and tires. But, I assume you're asking for your Dart(s) and I would look at a General, Firestone or BFG probably. I don't know how much you can spend, but if it is less than those, I would drop down to the well tested Asian offerings that have been around a while: Kumho, Yokohama, Hankook, Sumitomo, etc, Tire Rack has BFG Advantage T/A Sport, General Altimax RT43, and Firestone Firehawk AS all around 90 bucks per tire. Any of those will be a vast improvement over the venerable Tiger Paw.

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#4434921 - 06/18/17 08:40 AM Re: Any decent second tier tires for my car [Re: ram_man]
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Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 or Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+. Not only will they ride better than that Tiger Paw tire, but they'll VASTLY out-brake it in slippery conditions AND have more usable tread life.
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#4434925 - 06/18/17 08:45 AM Re: Any decent second tier tires for my car [Re: ram_man]
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Originally Posted By: ram_man
I currently have the tiger paw gtz they handle great but they rode so rough. What would be something that still handles good but rides a little smoother that won't break the bank size is 225/40/r18
The size is the problem IMHO. The 40 profile is too small. Go to a 70 series in 15" Yah, I know, they look dorky compared to the current style. But your econo-box will never be a race car, no matter how low the tires are. Higher profile tires are made for REAL road conditions, not a glass smooth race track. hide
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#4434936 - 06/18/17 08:56 AM Re: Any decent second tier tires for my car [Re: mrsilv04]
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Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
A rough ride might be an issue with any 40 series tires.

For sure. But there's still plenty of room for differentiation. Within a given performance class, a good tire will always ride better than a bad tire. At a given quality level, a touring-type tire will always ride better than a straight-up performance tire. And so on.

Going up the quality food chain often means you can go up the performance food chain without sacrificing ride quality. I'd trust my tailbone to a high-end performance tire over a lower-tier tire of any type, any day.

I run 205/55/17 performance winter tires, and 225/40/19 "max performance" summer tires. Both sets are from Michelin. Ride quality isn't as different as you might think.
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#4434941 - 06/18/17 09:04 AM Re: Any decent second tier tires for my car [Re: ram_man]
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I have had some Cooper's rated at 60K on my Prius- currently at 63K with plenty of tread left.
BF Goodrich and Uniroyal are Michelin owned brands now.
I looked at some Wal-Mart "Douglas" tires that are made by Goodyear in the USA.
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#4434942 - 06/18/17 09:04 AM Re: Any decent second tier tires for my car [Re: ram_man]
ejes Offline


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Ah, SORRY, didn't see the tire size there. For less expensive, maybe Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval AS, or General G-MAX AS,


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#4434951 - 06/18/17 09:12 AM Re: Any decent second tier tires for my car [Re: andyd]
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Originally Posted By: andyd
Originally Posted By: ram_man
I currently have the tiger paw gtz they handle great but they rode so rough. What would be something that still handles good but rides a little smoother that won't break the bank size is 225/40/r18
The size is the problem IMHO. The 40 profile is too small. Go to a 70 series in 15" Yah, I know, they look dorky compared to the current style. But your econo-box will never be a race car, no matter how low the tires are. Higher profile tires are made for REAL road conditions, not a glass smooth race track. hide

The series doesn't mean anything in isolation. It's meant to be a rough percentage of the width. A 70 series 15" tire would have to have a 185 section width to keep the same overall diameter. Not a good idea on a car that specs 225 as stock.

Dropping down to a smaller wheel could work if you could preserve the stock width and overall diameter. That seems to be tough for this size, though. To pick the 15" example, 225/55/15 is too small, and 225/60/15 is too big. It's a similar story with 16" and 17" sizes. I guess 215/60/15 could work, but there aren't a lot of good tire choices in that size. The best options all seem to be eco tires, which doesn't seem like a good idea given that you're already sacrificing lateral grip by going down in width.
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#4434956 - 06/18/17 09:17 AM Re: Any decent second tier tires for my car [Re: ram_man]
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Is this for the Dart?

40-series tires won't give you a good ride no matter what. You can probably minus-size down to 205/55-16 with no problems smile

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#4434960 - 06/18/17 09:26 AM Re: Any decent second tier tires for my car [Re: ram_man]
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It's the stock size on my dart. I know it will never be a Cadillac but these tiger paws ride like cinder blocks
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#4434966 - 06/18/17 09:37 AM Re: Any decent second tier tires for my car [Re: ram_man]
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Originally Posted By: ram_man
It's the stock size on my dart. I know it will never be a Cadillac but these tiger paws ride like cinder blocks

I wouldn't expect miracles here, given your sidewall height, but I would look into tires in grand touring all-season category. If you're on a budget, look at Kumho Ecsta LX Platinum. TR has them for $78 a piece.
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#4434971 - 06/18/17 09:42 AM Re: Any decent second tier tires for my car [Re: ram_man]
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I put some Continentals on a Pontiac Vibe GT that I'm sure had a 40 or 45 series sidewall and an 18" rim. Coupled with the new Monroe struts, it rode surpringly well.

I can look into exactly what tire it was when I get back to the shop if you're interested.
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