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#4432486 - 06/15/17 03:47 PM 2017 Camry Make Sense?
ArrestMeRedZ Offline


Registered: 11/11/08
Posts: 934
Loc: Las Vegas
As most of you are aware, SUVs are the in thing, and sedans aren't selling well. In order to sell their 2017 Camrys, Toyota has a $2750 (Cali) or $3k (Nevada) rebate. USAA/TrueCar shows an estimated LE dealer price of $17671 and a SE price of $18,267 where I am now in NoCal. I don't absolutely need a new car, but at those prices, it's hard to pass up.

Pros - Toyota reliability, ease to work on. Low cost of ownership. Updated safety and electronic equipment.
Cons - Boring to drive. After they are still running at the 15-20 year point they don't break, but you wish they would so you could justify getting something new. Not available with manual transmission.

I could make my wife happy with an Accord with a MT, but can't justify paying $4k over the Camry SE.

I have recently retired, and after handling some of my parent's estate matters, look to do some extensive traveling across the country. I'd be willing to get rid of 2 or 3 current vehicles to justify the purchase. Current road vehicles are a 2013 1500 4WD Silverado (nicknamed Luxo Truck - comfortable, reliable, and able to handle the previously required trip to grandma's house during winter storms), 2005 Colorado (basic road transportation and light hauling), 2000 Cad Deville (I had maintained it well for my parents, and couldn't let it go for the current low value, but like the Colorado it has little utility). Also have a 20 year old C2500 HD pickup for hauling that I will never sell, and the spouse has an older around town car she will keep.

I welcome any efforts to talk me into the purchase or talk me down.

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#4432489 - 06/15/17 03:54 PM Re: 2017 Camry Make Sense? [Re: ArrestMeRedZ]
Speak2Mountain Offline


Registered: 04/07/17
Posts: 347
Loc: Mississippi
Camrys look alot better now, they're still an appliance but now Neopolitan and not vanilla.

A black, Camry SE w/nice interior pkg and perhaps body kit...you gotta nice, reliable car.

Insurance is cheap, good mileage..i'd do it.

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#4432508 - 06/15/17 04:18 PM Re: 2017 Camry Make Sense? [Re: ArrestMeRedZ]
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This totally blows your value proposition, but a V6 Camry would be a screaming little sleeper car.
That same V6 moved my much heavier RAV4 around quite nicely and my wife's Avalon is even a bit quicker, although I always had trouble keeping the front tires from spinning leaving a light in that FWD vehicle. She doesn't like to let me drive it anymore after I mentioned that problem to her...
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#4432511 - 06/15/17 04:25 PM Re: 2017 Camry Make Sense? [Re: ArrestMeRedZ]
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Camrys are great cars. However-many on BITOG think that a new car (no matter the brand) is a bad purchase because of depreciation and other issues. BTW-that Silverado makes a great road car if you can afford the gas.

I say if you can afford it-life is short and buy it.


Edited by CKN (06/15/17 04:28 PM)

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#4432531 - 06/15/17 05:06 PM Re: 2017 Camry Make Sense? [Re: ArrestMeRedZ]
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You couldnt pay me $4k to drive a Camry
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#4432537 - 06/15/17 05:12 PM Re: 2017 Camry Make Sense? [Re: ArrestMeRedZ]
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Registered: 10/07/12
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Just so yo are dealing with all the info, the 2018 Camry will be revised significantly.

Have a look.

http://www.tflcar.com/2017/06/2018-toyota-camry-top-five-surprising-facts-video/
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#4432541 - 06/15/17 05:18 PM Re: 2017 Camry Make Sense? [Re: ArrestMeRedZ]
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nothing like a new Toyota, go for the '18.
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#4432545 - 06/15/17 05:27 PM Re: 2017 Camry Make Sense? [Re: ArrestMeRedZ]
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Registered: 08/24/11
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If you haven't driven a SE V6 (with 285 HP), do so before writing it off as boring.

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#4432546 - 06/15/17 05:27 PM Re: 2017 Camry Make Sense? [Re: ArrestMeRedZ]
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Registered: 11/27/15
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A Camry is THE most sensible vehicle there is.
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#4432557 - 06/15/17 05:35 PM Re: 2017 Camry Make Sense? [Re: dblshock]
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Originally Posted By: dblshock
nothing like a new Toyota, go for the '18.


I doubt he'll get the same deal as with the 2017 model year.
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#4432560 - 06/15/17 05:40 PM Re: 2017 Camry Make Sense? [Re: ArrestMeRedZ]
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Registered: 01/14/11
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He's looking at the '17 Camry because he can get into it cheap. That rules out waiting for '18s and upgrading to V6, body kits, etc.

You've got 5 vehicles and it sounds like you're willing to sell the Silverado and Colorado since you won't let the Caddy go cheap and you're keeping the old truck and her old car, reducing the fleet by 1 overall. Does that sound right?

I'd sell the Colorado and road trip the Caddy in a heartbeat... followed by the Silverado. Use the Colorado cash for gas money and roll in style and comfort. No way will an LE Camry cruise long distance in comfort like what you've got right now.
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#4432574 - 06/15/17 05:56 PM Re: 2017 Camry Make Sense? [Re: Virtus_Probi]
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Registered: 10/01/02
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Loc: North TX
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
This totally blows your value proposition, but a V6 Camry would be a screaming little sleeper car.
That same V6 moved my much heavier RAV4 around quite nicely and my wife's Avalon is even a bit quicker, although I always had trouble keeping the front tires from spinning leaving a light in that FWD vehicle. She doesn't like to let me drive it anymore after I mentioned that problem to her...


THIS is the way to go. You will never wish for a smoother more powerful engine. The MPG is incredible also, not as good as the four banger but still extremely respectable.

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#4432587 - 06/15/17 06:12 PM Re: 2017 Camry Make Sense? [Re: ArrestMeRedZ]
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Registered: 07/07/15
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I like the 4-cylinder camry as a good general duties car. They look fine, easy to park and drive, economical to keep and reliable.

For long term reliability they still have, as far as I know, port injection (not DI) so no fuel dilution or LSPI issues, a real auto (not CVT) and a full sized spare (not a space saver).

Sure the V6 is much faster, but more costly to buy, more fuel consumption, less space for DIY under the hood, and harder to get the power to the ground so more costly on tyres.

Now if they made a RWD V6 Camry ....
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#4432596 - 06/15/17 06:20 PM Re: 2017 Camry Make Sense? [Re: ArrestMeRedZ]
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Toyotas have really good brakes.
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#4432603 - 06/15/17 06:29 PM Re: 2017 Camry Make Sense? [Re: Virtus_Probi]
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Registered: 11/11/08
Posts: 934
Loc: Las Vegas
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
This totally blows your value proposition, but a V6 Camry would be a screaming little sleeper car.
That same V6 moved my much heavier RAV4 around quite nicely and my wife's Avalon is even a bit quicker, although I always had trouble keeping the front tires from spinning leaving a light in that FWD vehicle. She doesn't like to let me drive it anymore after I mentioned that problem to her...


I forgot to mention I have a M6 2002 Z-28 in the garage (needs a windshield because of a dust devil dropping part of a neighbor's roof into it) waiting repairs for my fun car. I agree the V6 Camry would be more fun than a 4 banger, but not as much fun as the Z. I'm looking at the 'yota as a long distance economy car, and am even considering the hybrid at the current price point.

Our previous Toyota was a '96 RAV4. Nice vehicle, but underpowered. Ran it until the timing belt wore out, replaced it, and kept going (non-interference engine). It was totaled by a hit and run driver while parked in front of our house. Still driveable, and it's now #1 daughter's car.

Nice quiet neighborhood, but have had the RAV totaled, son's Accord totaled, daughter's Acura totaled, C2500 truck hit twice and Camaro ran into while parked in front of the house. Even the driveway isn't safe, as the dust devil incident proved.

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