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#4429904 - 06/12/17 09:46 PM EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Any hands on experience?
dan_erickson Offline


Registered: 08/05/10
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I am getting a lot of mixed reviews online about EBC Red Stuff pads. I am looking for a pad that has some better stopping power and mostly a better initial bite. When I apply the brakes I would like to feel some response. OEM pads for my Honda and aftermarket pads that I have tried have not satisfied me yet so again I am looking. Does any one have experience with EBC pads?
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#4429908 - 06/12/17 09:53 PM Re: EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Any hands on experience? [Re: dan_erickson]
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I used EBC Red Stuff few years ago, on my euro spec EP3 Type-R. Initial bite was scary when it's cold. It's not bad when it gets hot (on track, too), but definitely not the best brake pad for daily driving.

Have you tried Akebono ACT or ASP series?
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#4429916 - 06/12/17 10:01 PM Re: EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Any hands on experience? [Re: dan_erickson]
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Registered: 07/07/08
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Loc: Maryland USA
EBC products are fine, I use them in a lot of motorcycles. My experience is that aftermarket pads generally opt for better bite once they are warm, at the expense of cold response. If you are looking for initial braking power then you might be going in the wrong direction. Go to Tirerack and check out the brake section, where they have ratings for stopping power, noise and dust. I have been using Hawk brand pads for the last 5 years and have been happy. You might want to call Hawk and Tirerack and tell them what your looking for, and what would be appropriate.

I bought lower cost pads for a Saturn Vue at Advance Auto, and they performed terrible: so I went ahead and bought some Hawk ceramic pads. Comparing the cheap pad to the Hawk showed that the cheap pad backing plate was [censored] and out of spec, so I returned them and asked to compare to another on the shelf- it was poorly manufactured as well, if not completely wrong for the application. IIRC it was made in China. Since it was a safety issue, I complained to Corporate and wrote a poor review of the product.

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#4429934 - 06/12/17 10:15 PM Re: EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Any hands on experience? [Re: dan_erickson]
ejes Offline


Registered: 01/11/16
Posts: 313
Loc: Kansas
Don't know if they offer them for whatever vehicle application you need, but I've found Bendix Fleet MetLok have better initial/cold bite than any other pad I've tried. Reasonable price and their burnishing compound means they don't require bedding. Put 'em on and go.

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#4429946 - 06/12/17 10:29 PM Re: EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Any hands on experience? [Re: dan_erickson]
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Registered: 07/12/15
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Loc: Chicago, IL
Try Hawk HPS. IMO, they are priced better than EBC RED and perform better. They have a better bite than stock, good for aggressive daily driving and dust a little more than stock.
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#4430000 - 06/13/17 12:40 AM Re: EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Any hands on experience? [Re: NASTI]
edyvw Offline


Registered: 03/08/12
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I have them currently on VW Tiguan and had on VW CC.
They are good pads. They will be improvement over Accord pads, there is no doubt about that. The cold performance is OK. Where you might get mixed reviews is that there was different compound on market few years back that had serious shortcomings when it comes to cold performance. VW Tiguan and CC have good brakes from get go, and these Red Stuff improved performance. Now if you really want to improve performance go with EBC Yellow stuff. I had it on VW CC and they bite like nuts. BUT, get ready for BMW like dust on wheels and some serious noise when you apply brake very lightly. But, if you do not mind that, make sure you look in rearview mirror when braking because you might get rear-ended smile


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#4430005 - 06/13/17 01:10 AM Re: EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Any hands on experience? [Re: dan_erickson]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
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Have you tried the Raybestos EHT? They are usually GG rated and also very affordable.
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#4430006 - 06/13/17 01:11 AM Re: EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Any hands on experience? [Re: dan_erickson]
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Registered: 10/03/08
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Although the Red, Yellow and Green Stuff is pretty decent, I love their Ultimax2 pads which I run across the board. GG rated and R90 approved, great friction hot or cold, super quiet and dust little to none. Based on my driving style, pretty spirited, I couldn't ask for a better pad.
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#4430035 - 06/13/17 04:42 AM Re: EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Any hands on experience? [Re: dan_erickson]
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Registered: 08/26/09
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Had them on two cars at the same time. Dusted like crazy, low lifespan. Was not impressed compared to stock Brembo pads.
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#4430036 - 06/13/17 04:44 AM Re: EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Any hands on experience? [Re: 901Memphis]
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Registered: 08/26/09
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Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
Have you tried the Raybestos EHT? They are usually GG rated and also very affordable.


I had a long thread on here about those, I loved them on my old CTS-V with massive rotors. After about 8000 miles I started to get an incredible pulse when my brakes would start to get warm. And you couldn't scrub the rotor with those pads. Only option was to replace front rotors or put a set of aggressive semi metallics in for session of hard braking.
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#4430038 - 06/13/17 04:49 AM Re: EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Any hands on experience? [Re: dan_erickson]
Olas Offline


Registered: 12/11/13
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I used them soon after release and was scared when I tried to stop. I don't have big enough cojones to try EBC in my own cars or those I work on ever again.

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#4430039 - 06/13/17 04:49 AM Re: EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Any hands on experience? [Re: dan_erickson]
mattwithcats Offline


Registered: 06/13/13
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Second the EBC Blackstuff (Ultimax)

I bought a stage 1 kit, two plain rotors, pads, and caliper lube for around $100...
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#4430067 - 06/13/17 06:13 AM Re: EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Any hands on experience? [Re: mattwithcats]
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Registered: 03/02/13
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Loc: The Midwest
Originally Posted By: mattwithcats
Second the EBC Blackstuff (Ultimax)

I bought a stage 1 kit, two plain rotors, pads, and caliper lube for around $100...



I put Ultimax pads on my sisters Camry. Made in the UK and has GG stamped on them. Got them cheap on Amazon. The initial pedal feel is really good.
Don't be afraid to try them.
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#4430118 - 06/13/17 07:37 AM Re: EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Any hands on experience? [Re: 901Memphis]
dan_erickson Offline


Registered: 08/05/10
Posts: 588
Loc: Crown Point, IN
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
Have you tried the Raybestos EHT? They are usually GG rated and also very affordable.

I have those pads on my car right now. When I first installed the pads I was impressed with how well the initial bite was but after they bed in it seems like that initial bite is now gone. Before that I had Stoptech sport pads and the car was scary to drive in traffic because if I needed to hit the brakes hard the car would not stop well at all. I almost hit someone because of this. The Stoptech pads came off the car ASAP.

Some one on another forum suggested new fluid and stainless lines to replace the rubber lines. That has me thinking to go with a Hawk pad, stainless lines, and new fluid.
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#4430123 - 06/13/17 07:45 AM Re: EBC Red Stuff brake pads. Any hands on experience? [Re: edyvw]
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Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6366
Loc: Texas
The EBC Yellow ate my rotors in a years time - and I'm stilling working the dust stains off the wheels.
They were strong brakes - but traded for a smaller boat and don't need them.
New rotors have PowerStop Extreme Truck & Tow - not the bite "old yellow" had - but clearly better than stock.

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