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first oil change???? #4422128
06/04/17 05:51 AM
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Robertslowpoke Offline OP
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good morning! i am just about to get a new car. infiniti Q 50. i THINK it is a twin turbo 24 valve 6 cylinder. engine. i think infiniti will tell me to change the oil around 10,000 miles, etc.

OK, i know i am pretty old and old school.

dumb question:

should i do the first oil change early? like, 500 miles? 1000 miles? 2000 miles?

i do under stand that engines are WAY better than years before and will have less metal shavings, etc. but this is a pretty complex twin turbo and i want it to last a long long time.

should i use premium gas?

i welcome any and all advice!

thanks!

bob

Re: first oil change???? [Re: Robertslowpoke] #4422137
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If it were me, I'd do it early, and Nissan/Infiniti doesn't use anything special in their factory fill, or warn about leaving things alone. But, that's just me. I suspect it requires premium, so I'd be using that, too. Even my G37 requires premium.


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: first oil change???? [Re: Robertslowpoke] #4422142
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Be prepared to weather a storm here. I'd change it early. Working in a machine shop in my younger days, talking with engine builders and machinists, and people who know a lot more than I do reinforces my reasoning. Oh and lets not forget the UOA's we see from time to time on a new engine. I want that [censored] out. Do some homework and reading here, and do what you think is best. There's some good discussion for and against, and plenty of talk of engines that have gone very long distances either way.


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Re: first oil change???? [Re: Robertslowpoke] #4422145
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You might want to check out the owner's manual.
https://owners.infinitiusa.com/iowners/navigation/manualsAndGuides

Re: first oil change???? [Re: Robertslowpoke] #4422146
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Even with the very common GM 2.4L Ecotec motor in my Slingshot, Polaris called for the first change at 500 miles. I'm old school also and changed out my 13 Accord early as well when it was new. Honda said run it 7000.


'13 Accord EX-L 2.4L (100K) M1 & FU
'00 Ford Ranger 4.0L {65K} M1 & FU
'18 Polaris Slingshot 2.4L GM
'07 Kioti CK-30
Re: first oil change???? [Re: Robertslowpoke] #4422148
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On every new engine I get the first oil change is @ 500, the second @ 1,500, then the third is @ 3,000 miles, then every 3,000 after that.

I'm sure people will post the exact opposite, what a waste of money, etc.

It just boils down to what makes you happy. Doing the above makes me happy.

Also when you go to trade it in, I've never heard someone complain that there were too many oil changes done. In fact, literally every vehicle I've traded in has never made it to the lot as someone in the service dept scoops it up for themselves as they know it's been owned by me and maintained on an OCD maintainance schedule lol.

Re: first oil change???? [Re: Robertslowpoke] #4422151
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I know very little about cars buy believe in changing early, 1000 miles or so, just in case there's anything that may have been leftover in the engine. 1 or 2 extra oil changes during the life of the vehicle shouldn't break the bank.

Re: first oil change???? [Re: Robertslowpoke] #4422153
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Robertslowpoke, all new Q50's call for premium gas. Don't like it, look at something else.

Personally, I think an early initial oil & filter change can help*.
Whom it helps is rare, maybe very rare. Possibly the individual that actually drives a vehicle until the engine needs a rebuild.
But than again what your looking at has TWO turbos. If you saw a UOA on your factory fill at 5K, it wouldn't look pretty.
Why would you wanna go another 5k on it than? word/


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
Re: first oil change???? [Re: Robertslowpoke] #4422162
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I'm old school also and change out the factory fill at 1000 miles. 10k is a long interval for oil, especially with that turbo motor. I would start with every 5k.

If the manual says premium fuel then that's what you should fill up with. Figure your extra cost per year by the number of miles you expect to put on this vehicle for the year.


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Re: first oil change???? [Re: Robertslowpoke] #4422191
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Yes change it out early. Break in metals are a fact of life. The oil filter will not catch all the tiny metallic bits so they'll be in there floating around like sand paper, "polishing" other engine internals. I feel like after a good 1,000 miles this is more then done and getting that metallic soup out of there is in order. Why anyone would argue against this, esp on an oil forum is beyond me.

Sure some might say that the engine will be "fine", etc but that still doesn't change the fact that you have abrasive oil flowing thru your brand new engine for no good reason except to try to use up a gallon of oil in order not to waste it ($20-30 dollars worth) crackmeup


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Re: first oil change???? [Re: Robertslowpoke] #4422210
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I change the oil in any new car at 1,000 to 1,500 miles. Then every 5K miles or 6 months. All vehicles get premium fuel as well.


2016 Charger, 6.4L-485 HP (PUP 0W-40)
2017 BMW 330i, 2L-248 HP (BMW 0W-20)
2018 Jeep GC, 5.7L-360 HP (PP 5W-20)
2008 20KW Generac (Amsoil 10W-30/30)
Re: first oil change???? [Re: Robertslowpoke] #4422222
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2000 miles max on original oil.

Re: first oil change???? [Re: Robertslowpoke] #4422233
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RTOM, and find out what your dealer wants to keep the warranty intact.

My opinion may not be popular, but I think initial change at 500, then another at 2k, then depending on UOA at 2k, calculate out a safe OCI. I like diesel oils in turbo apps, but with CK-4 oils looking (ridiculously) like their SN counterparts, that may no longer be a benefit. Start with the owners manual for type and grade recommendations and go from there.


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Re: first oil change???? [Re: SilverSnake] #4422239
06/04/17 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted By: SilverSnake
I change the oil in any new car at 1,000 to 1,500 miles. Then every 5K miles or 6 months. All vehicles get premium fuel as well.



A little off topic but...

ALL vehicles? Even the ones that don't spec or require it to run normally as designed?!?! duh


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Re: first oil change???? [Re: Robertslowpoke] #4422265
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Change it at 3000 miles. That's what my Nissan recommend. The factory fill of Nissan is 20w50 Roshfrans


2014 NISSAN VERSA 5spd M/T- M1 EP 5w30 and M1 EP Filter. 5k OCI.
2011 CHEVY IMPALA 3.5ltrs - M1 HM 5w30 and M1 EP Filter. 3k OCI.
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