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Defender vs Ecopia? #4420803
06/02/17 10:02 AM
06/02/17 10:02 AM
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South Texas Rancho
TexasVaquero Offline OP
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I am about to replace my aging contipro contact tires on my Versa. I am mostly 30% city, 70% highway. I will be doing a lot of summer trips around Texas this summer.
I was wondering which set tires will be the best on quality. I have read mixed results from the Ecopia. Either people love them or hate them. I don't mind the sound of the tire as the contpros I have do plenty and I am not a sissy so it don't bother me grin

I plan either to get em changed at Sam's or Discount tire, but I am unsure about Sam's since I have read they damage your lugs.

Anyways, thanks for the input.


2014 NISSAN VERSA 5spd M/T- M1 EP 5w30 and M1 EP Filter. 5k OCI.
2011 CHEVY IMPALA 3.5ltrs - M1 HM 5w30 and M1 EP Filter. 3k OCI.
Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero] #4420807
06/02/17 10:11 AM
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East Tennessee
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Defender. I have a set on my Frontier. Great tire.


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Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero] #4420809
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Tire techs damage lugs. Stores do not.

That said, Defender.

Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: Bottom_Feeder] #4420812
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South Texas Rancho
TexasVaquero Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
Tire techs damage lugs. Stores do not.

That said, Defender.


They are the store, my man.


2014 NISSAN VERSA 5spd M/T- M1 EP 5w30 and M1 EP Filter. 5k OCI.
2011 CHEVY IMPALA 3.5ltrs - M1 HM 5w30 and M1 EP Filter. 3k OCI.
Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero] #4420813
06/02/17 10:22 AM
06/02/17 10:22 AM
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South Texas Rancho
TexasVaquero Offline OP
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I guess I'll go the Defender route.


2014 NISSAN VERSA 5spd M/T- M1 EP 5w30 and M1 EP Filter. 5k OCI.
2011 CHEVY IMPALA 3.5ltrs - M1 HM 5w30 and M1 EP Filter. 3k OCI.
Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero] #4420816
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West MI
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I'd vote Defender too if those are the only options.

I found out the other day that Sam's sells Continental and General branded tires even though they don't actively stock them yet. Apparently, a recent development. You might find some other good options and probably much better priced ones such as Continental PureContact and General RT43. DT has those readily available usually.


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Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero] #4420828
06/02/17 10:43 AM
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Michigan, USA
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Michigan, USA
Defender, just put a set on the wife's Cherokee. Quieter and smoother than OE factory, balanced with minimal weight too


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Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero] #4420831
06/02/17 10:49 AM
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California
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I've been happy with the Defender XT on a Prius and Sienna - it's the Costco/Sam's/BJ's version. The Ecopia might give you slightly better MPG, however they are a glorified Turanza EL400, which is a OEM tire.

Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero] #4420836
06/02/17 10:54 AM
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Minnesota
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I have a set of Defenders on my civic. Very happy with them.


2010 Honda Civic LX
Valvoline SynPower 5w-20 - Napa Gold oil filter
59,992 miles
Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero] #4420845
06/02/17 11:02 AM
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MN
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I have used only Defenders for many years, and love them.

Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: nthach] #4420847
06/02/17 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted By: nthach
I've been happy with the Defender XT on a Prius and Sienna - it's the Costco/Sam's/BJ's version. The Ecopia might give you slightly better MPG, however they are a glorified Turanza EL400, which is a OEM tire.


I read an article that argued that it is a wash between the ecopia and the defender. The ecopia saves mpg slightly, but the defender lasted twice and long and had better grip.

Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero] #4420975
06/02/17 01:41 PM
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South Texas Rancho
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I will consider the ecopias a bit more. Maybe pricing is what lead me to choosing either one. Defenders are my number one choice based on advice on this website and on other forums.


2014 NISSAN VERSA 5spd M/T- M1 EP 5w30 and M1 EP Filter. 5k OCI.
2011 CHEVY IMPALA 3.5ltrs - M1 HM 5w30 and M1 EP Filter. 3k OCI.
Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero] #4421056
06/02/17 03:55 PM
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Huntington Beach, CA
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Installed the new Defender T&H tire on my sons Subaru (205/55/16). Only a little over 1,000 miles but they are quiet with a smooth ride. 80,000 mile warranty. Priced about the same as the others. Had good luck on our previous Defenders (mileage and handling) but felt the ride could have been a tad better(different car) so am trying the T&H version.

Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero] #4421154
06/02/17 06:36 PM
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Sam will not damage your lugs. Walmart uses the correct torque, not an air gun, and Sam's Club probably does, too smile

Is your tire size 185/65-15?

Since you're in Texas, you don't need all-season tires. You might be better served by the Falken Ziex ZE914 Ecorun.

If you're only considering the two in your OP, get the T+H, since it's a new tire and probably better than the old Ecopia EP422. But really, you should've gotten the tires last week (especially since you're near a DT!) because of the huge rebate promos DT/DTD had!

Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero] #4421191
06/02/17 07:20 PM
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Lynchburg, VA, USA
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Defender. I had them on my Audi and loved them. Great highway tire.


2014 Honda Odyssey EX-L/RES: 54K mi, M1 0w-40 & FU, VCMuzzler V2
2017 Mazda 6 Touring 6MT: 22k mi, M1 AFE 0w20, OEM Filter
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