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#4420803 - 06/02/17 11:02 AM Defender vs Ecopia?
TexasVaquero Offline


Registered: 05/31/17
Posts: 127
Loc: South Texas Rancho
I am about to replace my aging contipro contact tires on my Versa. I am mostly 30% city, 70% highway. I will be doing a lot of summer trips around Texas this summer.
I was wondering which set tires will be the best on quality. I have read mixed results from the Ecopia. Either people love them or hate them. I don't mind the sound of the tire as the contpros I have do plenty and I am not a sissy so it don't bother me grin

I plan either to get em changed at Sam's or Discount tire, but I am unsure about Sam's since I have read they damage your lugs.

Anyways, thanks for the input.
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#4420807 - 06/02/17 11:11 AM Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero]
Starman2112 Online   content


Registered: 11/27/15
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Loc: East Tennessee
Defender. I have a set on my Frontier. Great tire.
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#4420809 - 06/02/17 11:13 AM Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero]
Bottom_Feeder Offline


Registered: 12/07/08
Posts: 3013
Loc: Occupied Virginia
Tire techs damage lugs. Stores do not.

That said, Defender.

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#4420812 - 06/02/17 11:22 AM Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: Bottom_Feeder]
TexasVaquero Offline


Registered: 05/31/17
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Loc: South Texas Rancho
Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
Tire techs damage lugs. Stores do not.

That said, Defender.


They are the store, my man.
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#4420813 - 06/02/17 11:22 AM Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero]
TexasVaquero Offline


Registered: 05/31/17
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I guess I'll go the Defender route.
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#4420816 - 06/02/17 11:23 AM Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero]
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Registered: 01/02/15
Posts: 576
Loc: West MI
I'd vote Defender too if those are the only options.

I found out the other day that Sam's sells Continental and General branded tires even though they don't actively stock them yet. Apparently, a recent development. You might find some other good options and probably much better priced ones such as Continental PureContact and General RT43. DT has those readily available usually.
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#4420828 - 06/02/17 11:43 AM Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero]
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Registered: 05/24/16
Posts: 313
Loc: Michigan, USA
Defender, just put a set on the wife's Cherokee. Quieter and smoother than OE factory, balanced with minimal weight too
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#4420831 - 06/02/17 11:49 AM Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero]
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 3909
Loc: California
I've been happy with the Defender XT on a Prius and Sienna - it's the Costco/Sam's/BJ's version. The Ecopia might give you slightly better MPG, however they are a glorified Turanza EL400, which is a OEM tire.

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#4420836 - 06/02/17 11:54 AM Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero]
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Registered: 12/06/14
Posts: 350
Loc: Minnesota
I have a set of Defenders on my civic. Very happy with them.
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#4420845 - 06/02/17 12:02 PM Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero]
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Registered: 10/17/15
Posts: 471
Loc: MN
I have used only Defenders for many years, and love them.

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#4420847 - 06/02/17 12:03 PM Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: nthach]
WillsYoda Offline


Registered: 10/17/15
Posts: 471
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: nthach
I've been happy with the Defender XT on a Prius and Sienna - it's the Costco/Sam's/BJ's version. The Ecopia might give you slightly better MPG, however they are a glorified Turanza EL400, which is a OEM tire.


I read an article that argued that it is a wash between the ecopia and the defender. The ecopia saves mpg slightly, but the defender lasted twice and long and had better grip.

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#4420975 - 06/02/17 02:41 PM Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero]
TexasVaquero Offline


Registered: 05/31/17
Posts: 127
Loc: South Texas Rancho
I will consider the ecopias a bit more. Maybe pricing is what lead me to choosing either one. Defenders are my number one choice based on advice on this website and on other forums.
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#4421056 - 06/02/17 04:55 PM Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero]
tenderloin Offline


Registered: 12/16/02
Posts: 6521
Loc: Huntington Beach, CA
Installed the new Defender T&H tire on my sons Subaru (205/55/16). Only a little over 1,000 miles but they are quiet with a smooth ride. 80,000 mile warranty. Priced about the same as the others. Had good luck on our previous Defenders (mileage and handling) but felt the ride could have been a tad better(different car) so am trying the T&H version.

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#4421154 - 06/02/17 07:36 PM Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero]
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Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 6177
Loc: USA
Sam will not damage your lugs. Walmart uses the correct torque, not an air gun, and Sam's Club probably does, too smile

Is your tire size 185/65-15?

Since you're in Texas, you don't need all-season tires. You might be better served by the Falken Ziex ZE914 Ecorun.

If you're only considering the two in your OP, get the T+H, since it's a new tire and probably better than the old Ecopia EP422. But really, you should've gotten the tires last week (especially since you're near a DT!) because of the huge rebate promos DT/DTD had!

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#4421191 - 06/02/17 08:20 PM Re: Defender vs Ecopia? [Re: TexasVaquero]
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Registered: 08/06/12
Posts: 789
Loc: Lynchburg, VA, USA
Defender. I had them on my Audi and loved them. Great highway tire.
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