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Well I've done it again, now what ... #4416534
05/28/17 05:23 PM
05/28/17 05:23 PM
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BrocLuno Offline OP
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I'm getting older and Pop will pass soon. So I'm the "leader" of the remaining generation. As such, I have no need of five vehicles, three bikes, two boats and who knows what else. They were the "tools" of a previous life with long'ish highway commutes, etc.

So my wife and I are starting to seriously downsize the fleet. She never cared much about driving or riding in the big block 1970 Chevy truck. To crude, old, tough and hard. It built the later bits of the house and hauled the top soil, etc. But a buddy wants it, so he bought it off me.

My neighbor up the hill came over a few weeks ago and wanted to buy the race car project, so it rolled away last week. I won't need the Saab 9-5 anymore after Pops is gone (it's soon as he's 97 and sleeping most of the time ...). No more bay area nasty highway commutes ( smile ). And we have her XJ6 as a run around sedan smile

So this weekend we bought a 1993 F-150 extended cab with 87K on the odo. Garage kept and loaded with almost every option including 4x4, towing package,and a bed liner. So won't need the big Bronco any more either. The new truck will tow and launch the boat from any ramp. I'll get the Bronco sold in a month or so.

The question is, what oil should I put in the "new" F-150? 5.7 V8 with auto trans. Don't know if it's roller cam or not ... My wife has driven it, but not me yet (still on elder care this weekend ...).

Oil has changed since 1993. That's a quarter of a century ago ... The owners manual will list something that is not really in production any more. I've tried M1 many times in many different vehicles and never like the cold start clatter, so that's out. Not enough miles for Maxlife, but maybe enough age on the seals and gaskets ...

Whadda ya think ??


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Well I've done it again, now what ... [Re: BrocLuno] #4416540
05/28/17 05:27 PM
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In the shop
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My vote is Chevron Supreme or Maxlife 5w30 blend wink


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Well I've done it again, now what ... [Re: BrocLuno] #4416542
05/28/17 05:29 PM
05/28/17 05:29 PM
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San Antonio, TX
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Cool you've got yourself a good truck. I don't have the same engine, but I use Valvoline Synpower now with no issues in my f150. I picked the 5w30 flavor. I don't bother with the high mileage varieties.


1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD - 100k
1995 F150 XL 4.9 reg cab 5MT - 251k 5w30
2016 Mazda6 Touring 6MT - 57k 10w30
2006 Buick Lucerne CXL 3.8 31k 5w30
Re: Well I've done it again, now what ... [Re: BrocLuno] #4416548
05/28/17 05:36 PM
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Colorado
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sounds like a sweet ride. id change the oil and filter, trans fluid and filter, fuel filter, air filter, bleed brakes, and drain n fill the coolant.

I would use castrol gtx but obviously there's many good options.


1987 mazda rx7
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Re: Well I've done it again, now what ... [Re: BrocLuno] #4416551
05/28/17 05:40 PM
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Your new truck should be a 5.8 (351W) or a 5.0 (302) if it's a 5.8 it will be a flat tappet camshaft. If it's a 302/5.0 it's a roller camshaft. Either way I'd run a 10w30 HDEO in it year round, Delo/Delvac/Rotella/etc. It's a low stressed V-8 with low spring pressure it will live a long life on just about anything to be honest. I really liked that generation Ford truck, I haven't had a use for any of the newer more complex OHC Ford MOD motor stuff. Enjoy!


Luke
P-3C and P-8A Maritime Weapons and Tactics Instructor, Instructor Tactical Coordinator and Mission Commander
Re: Well I've done it again, now what ... [Re: BrocLuno] #4416568
05/28/17 06:04 PM
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This would be a 351W, no?
I have one of these in my '94 E350 with a little over 82K.
Mine drank the QTP 10W-30 I first used in it, so I then tried Maxlife 10W-30, which yielded a quart and a half of oil consumption in 5K. It's now on Durablend 10W-30 and about 2.2K into this OCI, consumption also seems on track for a quart and a half over 5K.
Just my observations of this old engine.


17 Forester 18K VME 0W-20
12 Accord LX 92K PP 5W-20
09 Forester 95K M1HM 10W-30
01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20
96 Accord LX 104K T5 10W-30
95 318i
Re: Well I've done it again, now what ... [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4416575
05/28/17 06:10 PM
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Orlando, FL
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Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
Your new truck should be a 5.8 (351W) or a 5.0 (302) if it's a 5.8 it will be a flat tappet camshaft. If it's a 302/5.0 it's a roller camshaft. Either way I'd run a 10w30 HDEO in it year round, Delo/Delvac/Rotella/etc. It's a low stressed V-8 with low spring pressure it will live a long life on just about anything to be honest. I really liked that generation Ford truck, I haven't had a use for any of the newer more complex OHC Ford MOD motor stuff. Enjoy!


Delo or Rotella is my choice.

Re: Well I've done it again, now what ... [Re: BrocLuno] #4416589
05/28/17 06:32 PM
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NJ
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Oil is oil, bro. Circle of life, blah, blah. Give pops a hug and take him for a ride.


Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming

2003 Corolla 250,000 miles
2004 Rav4 359,000 miles
2015 Camry 59,000 miles
Re: Well I've done it again, now what ... [Re: BrocLuno] #4416590
05/28/17 06:36 PM
05/28/17 06:36 PM
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Upstate NY
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Originally Posted By: BrocLuno
I'm getting older and Pop will pass soon. So I'm the "leader" of the remaining generation. As such, I have no need of five vehicles, three bikes, two boats and who knows what else. They were the "tools" of a previous life with long'ish highway commutes, etc.

So my wife and I are starting to seriously downsize the fleet. She never cared much about driving or riding in the big block 1970 Chevy truck. To crude, old, tough and hard. It built the later bits of the house and hauled the top soil, etc. But a buddy wants it, so he bought it off me.

My neighbor up the hill came over a few weeks ago and wanted to buy the race car project, so it rolled away last week. I won't need the Saab 9-5 anymore after Pops is gone (it's soon as he's 97 and sleeping most of the time ...). No more bay area nasty highway commutes ( smile ). And we have her XJ6 as a run around sedan smile

So this weekend we bought a 1993 F-150 extended cab with 87K on the odo. Garage kept and loaded with almost every option including 4x4, towing package,and a bed liner. So won't need the big Bronco any more either. The new truck will tow and launch the boat from any ramp. I'll get the Bronco sold in a month or so.

The question is, what oil should I put in the "new" F-150? 5.7 V8 with auto trans. Don't know if it's roller cam or not ... My wife has driven it, but not me yet (still on elder care this weekend ...).

Oil has changed since 1993. That's a quarter of a century ago ... The owners manual will list something that is not really in production any more. I've tried M1 many times in many different vehicles and never like the cold start clatter, so that's out. Not enough miles for Maxlife, but maybe enough age on the seals and gaskets ...

Whadda ya think ??


The hot engine viscosity part of the oil weight will not have changed from when the engine was built.

I am assuming any good 5W30 or 10W30.

Look it up on Amsoil web site.


2015 Subaru Forester 2.5 engine/CVT
2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)
Re: Well I've done it again, now what ... [Re: BrocLuno] #4416599
05/28/17 06:47 PM
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Yeah, it's a 351. So according to P3 it's a flat tappet... I can live with that as I have all my life. In SBF's I've only ever built 289's or 302's. I've owned very few roller cams and most of those were in big trucks ...

Yeah, I also have no use for more modern trucks. I looked and looked and I tried to like the jelly bean trucks. But, I'm to old school and like my trucks more square'ish. What I really like is that it's pre-ODB-II, so smog test issues are much less of a problem smile

Last edited by BrocLuno; 05/28/17 06:49 PM.

Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Well I've done it again, now what ... [Re: BrocLuno] #4416606
05/28/17 06:55 PM
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Down Under
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A HDEO 10W30 or GTX 10W30 as GTX has given some impressive VOA's on PQIA recently.

Then hold your Pop's hand and tell him a story of something fun you both did together when you were young.


Penrite Vantage 10W40 SN & A3/B4 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: Well I've done it again, now what ... [Re: Leo99] #4416609
05/28/17 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: Leo99
Oil is oil, bro. Circle of life, blah, blah. Give pops a hug and take him for a ride.


Pop's ain't ridin in our stuff any more. He's in bed for the duration. He's comfy and he has his cowboy channel, but he's not goin ridin any more frown

He was born in 1919 on a ranch and lived through the Depression. He's as tough as they come. All through the Pacific during WW-II. Decorated for bravery. Came home and built a life and home in the Santa Cruz Mtns. AFL-CIO Local Three and ran a dozer all his life, sometimes in places others wouldn't. But it's nearing the end. He knows it and so do we. We just try to keep him comfy, and try not to cry too much ...


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Well I've done it again, now what ... [Re: BrocLuno] #4416736
05/28/17 09:33 PM
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With the it being at 87k, you could go with Mobil 1 HM or, you could go with a blend like Motorcraft. That's what I'm running in my bronco 5.0 atm. If your not seeing evidence of leaks though, any quality 10w30 or 5w30 oil would likely do.

Your Dad sounds a lot like mine was. Mine was born in 1917 and was on the USS Enterprise in WW2. Been gone almost 30 years now but, there's not a day passes I don't still think about him. I'm glad you've been blessed to be with him all these years.


07 F150 Lariat 4x2
07 Honda Fit
96 Ford Bronco 4x4

"If you always do what you always did, you will always get what you always got" Albert Einstein
Re: Well I've done it again, now what ... [Re: BrocLuno] #4416995
05/29/17 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted By: BrocLuno
Originally Posted By: Leo99
Oil is oil, bro. Circle of life, blah, blah. Give pops a hug and take him for a ride.


Pop's ain't ridin in our stuff any more. He's in bed for the duration. He's comfy and he has his cowboy channel, but he's not goin ridin any more frown

He was born in 1919 on a ranch and lived through the Depression. He's as tough as they come. All through the Pacific during WW-II. Decorated for bravery. Came home and built a life and home in the Santa Cruz Mtns. AFL-CIO Local Three and ran a dozer all his life, sometimes in places others wouldn't. But it's nearing the end. He knows it and so do we. We just try to keep him comfy, and try not to cry too much ...


BrocLuno,

Sorry to hear about your father. My Grandfather was also a WWII vet, European campaign Battle of the Bulge survivor he passed a month ago. Part of the greatest generation like your father. He too was sleeping a lot towards the end and I can appreciate how tough that journey is for family.

The 351 held out with flat tappets much longer than the 302 did. The only exception was the Lighting trucks and a few 1997-1998 F250/350 with the 351. One thing to watch for when sourcing an oil filter, if the truck uses a sandwich oil cooler at the oil filter it takes a different oil filter than the standard Ford PH-8A. If no oil cooler the standard oil filter applies. Enjoy the truck!


Luke
P-3C and P-8A Maritime Weapons and Tactics Instructor, Instructor Tactical Coordinator and Mission Commander
Re: Well I've done it again, now what ... [Re: BrocLuno] #4417012
05/29/17 09:06 AM
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A 1993 5.7L 351 should have a flat tappet cam, i would recomend Maxlife 10W-30 or Mobil 1 HM 10W-30.


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.

1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.
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