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hot shots secret fr3 #4407318 05/17/17 05:02 PM
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Has anyone here used this product? I've had great success w/ their other products, so I'm inclined to give this product a try. Just wondering what experience anyone has had with it.

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I'm skeptical of any product with the word "secret"........in the label.

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"Negatively charged synthetic ester tenaciously attaches to all internal parts completely lubricating your engine." Ha Ha!


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Here is a msds on it.
http://www.hotshotsecret.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/SDS-FR3.pdf

Interesting that it states 90% proprietary formula. 10% Trimethylolpropane Tripelargonate ( I'm no chemist , so i don't know what that is.)

Boiling point 572 f
Flash point 482 f
Viscosity 10 cst at 100c


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True Snake Oil is some type of purported medicine designed to be ingested to cure some ailment, so we can't call this Snake Oil. But if we could, we would.

If you read the complete MSDS, it appears the product contains nothing at all, and is essentially non-toxic to everything on the planet. Magic indeed.

"Synthetic esters" describes virtually every oil additive ever used in the lubricating industry, and those still in use today. A bunch of them come free with a bottle of oil.

The basic chemical reaction used to synthesize all esters involves a carboxylic acid and an alcohol reacting to form an ester and water. The reaction is reversible, so the product will generally tell the user to avoid water contamination. And lo and behold, this one does.


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Originally Posted By: Johnny2Bad


"Synthetic esters" describes virtually every oil additive ever used in the lubricating industry, and those still in use today. A bunch of them come free with a bottle of oil.

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I agree, kind of why i posted the boiling point , flash point, and viscosity.

Again I'm no chemist but to me ....it....looks ...like....oil.


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Re: hot shots secret fr3 [Re: pupeperson] #4407677 05/18/17 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted By: pupeperson
Has anyone here used this product? I've had great success w/ their other products, so I'm inclined to give this product a try. Just wondering what experience anyone has had with it.

Which other products have you used and what were the problems they solved?


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I've used their "Stiction Eliminator" and their "Diesel Extreme" products in a 1986 Ford 6.9, a 2006 B series Dodge Cummins and a 2014 Cummins ISX15 in a Peterbilt 579. They performed as advertised and made all of those vehicles run smoother, idle better, make more power and deliver better fuel economy. It's because those products DID work as advertised that I'm inclined to give their FR3 product a chance.

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Well, based on the responses so far in this thread I think you may get a lot of imagined benefits from this additive.


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From what I've read of the responses, no one has tried it, so their opinions are of little value.

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Originally Posted By: pupeperson
From what I've read of the responses, no one has tried it, so their opinions are of little value.

That's a popular opinion here on BITOG, often expressed in additive discussions.

Considering the always subjective nature of the manufacturer's claims for the products I'd be inclined to agree.


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Secret FR3 Friction Reducer 32 FL. OZ.:
Increase fuel economy up to 5%


Extremely Doubtful.

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Reduction in oil operating temperature


From what temp down to what temp?


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Reduces engine wear up to 43%


From how many ppm of ferrous and other metals down to what ppm?


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Improves oil's oxidative stability


Why? Anti-oxidants are already in an engine oil.


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Restores lost compression


How?


Originally Posted By: kschacn
Considering the always subjective nature of the manufacturer's claims for the products I'd be inclined to agree.



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Originally Posted By: MolaKule
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Secret FR3 Friction Reducer 32 FL. OZ.:
Increase fuel economy up to 5%


Extremely Doubtful.

The "before" test is uphill. After adding the additive, it's done downhill. wink


Plain, simple Garak.

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Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by pupeperson
From what I've read of the responses, no one has tried it, so their opinions are of little value.

That's a popular opinion here on BITOG, often expressed in additive discussions.

Considering the always subjective nature of the manufacturer's claims for the products I'd be inclined to agree.


Really funny how people who have not tried something down the question the most. Hot Shot Secret has Dyno test, etc on you tube on their FR3 product and quite a few testimonials on YouTube of people who have actually tried some of their products. I used Diesel Kleen in my 2018 Ram 2500 Cummins and it DID make a positive difference in the way the engine ran. I am going to try Hot Shot Secret EDT as soon as I finish the Diesel Kleen. I say try the stuff and see. Then you could post a response based on something other than sitting in a chair typing on this blog and about something with no knowledge. I am going to try the FR3 as it reduces friction and the EDT in place of the Diesel Kleen just to see if I will notice a difference. FR3 on the dyno had a 14 horse power increase (reduced friction).

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Originally Posted by pupeperson
From what I've read of the responses, no one has tried it, so their opinions are of little value.


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