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Schaeffer's Supreme "Full Synthetic" 9000 5W-30 #4400556
05/09/17 08:42 PM
05/09/17 08:42 PM
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Washington, USA
Onug Offline OP
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Adding to the collective knowledge here at BITOG. I'm running this now for a few cycles in my rig, so wanted to see how the virgin oil looked...


2016 F-150 3.5L Ecoboost
Current Oil: Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 and Fram Ultra filter
Re: Schaeffer's Supreme "Full Synthetic" 9000 5W-30 [Re: Onug] #4400565
05/09/17 08:51 PM
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Huge waste of money.

Re: Schaeffer's Supreme "Full Synthetic" 9000 5W-30 [Re: Onug] #4400571
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Doesn't look bad on paper, but I guess real world use will be the ultimate test.

Re: Schaeffer's Supreme "Full Synthetic" 9000 5W-30 [Re: Onug] #4400627
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Upstate S.C.
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I would love to see a UOA on this oil. Moly and sodium? Interesting


2017 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 4x4 with Castrol Full Synthetic (gold bottle) with Fram Ultra oil filter.
Re: Schaeffer's Supreme "Full Synthetic" 9000 5W-30 [Re: KingCake] #4400655
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Originally Posted By: KingCake
Huge waste of money.


Don't let your hate for non-WM oils color your judgement. Millions of miles on Schaeffer are racked up by big rig drivers every year and many of them swear by it.

If a UOA shows that it's a waste of money I'll happily agree with you. But until then, the jury's out.


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: Schaeffer's Supreme "Full Synthetic" 9000 5W-30 [Re: The_Captain] #4400657
05/09/17 11:32 PM
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Onug Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: The_Captain
I would love to see a UOA on this oil. Moly and sodium? Interesting


Look for mine in the Aug/Sept timeframe...


2016 F-150 3.5L Ecoboost
Current Oil: Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 and Fram Ultra filter
Re: Schaeffer's Supreme "Full Synthetic" 9000 5W-30 [Re: Onug] #4400829
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Isn't this a diesel HDEO?? Powerstroke guys swear by this stuff for the infamous 6.0. I just can't see paying that premium for it when I need 16 quarts per OCI and have to also pay to ship it because its not available locally.


Just say NO to thin oils and M1!
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Re: Schaeffer's Supreme "Full Synthetic" 9000 5W-30 [Re: Kuato] #4400841
05/10/17 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: Kuato
Originally Posted By: KingCake
Huge waste of money.

Don't let your hate for non-WM oils color your judgement. Millions of miles on Schaeffer are racked up by big rig drivers every year and many of them swear by it.

If a UOA shows that it's a waste of money I'll happily agree with you. But until then, the jury's out.

What would the UOA show that would distinguish it either way?


1994 BMW 530i, 228K
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2000 Toyota ECHO, 271K
Re: Schaeffer's Supreme "Full Synthetic" 9000 5W-30 [Re: kschachn] #4403462
05/12/17 11:58 PM
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Colorado
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Originally Posted By: KingCake
Huge waste of money.

Don't let your hate for non-WM oils color your judgement. Millions of miles on Schaeffer are racked up by big rig drivers every year and many of them swear by it.

If a UOA shows that it's a waste of money I'll happily agree with you. But until then, the jury's out.

What would the UOA show that would distinguish it either way?


We've been on this site about the same amount of time and I think we both know the answer - let's just keep it simple and go with low wear numbers (arguably doable with other oils), TBN retention, minimal shearing or thickening, and perhaps an extended interval because of all those things - you know, all the things that true synthetics are known for.

I'd like to know what you'd need to see in a UOA to show it would be a waste of money? Yes there are less expensive oils to be had. 9000 is around $5-6 a quart depending on how you get it and what discount is offered.

Oh and Happy Birthday +2 days.


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: Schaeffer's Supreme "Full Synthetic" 9000 5W-30 [Re: racin4ds] #4404131
05/14/17 04:55 AM
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East Coast
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Originally Posted By: racin4ds
Isn't this a diesel HDEO?? Powerstroke guys swear by this stuff for the infamous 6.0. I just can't see paying that premium for it when I need 16 quarts per OCI and have to also pay to ship it because its not available locally.

It does work for whatever reason to eliminate the dreaded 6.0 injector sticking issue.

Re: Schaeffer's Supreme "Full Synthetic" 9000 5W-30 [Re: Onug] #4404136
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Indiana
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2003 VW Jetta TDI (Sold) / 2015 VW GTI 2.0T
Re: Schaeffer's Supreme "Full Synthetic" 9000 5W-30 [Re: Onug] #4437089
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Sav ga
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I'll be glad to email a Schaeffer 9000 uoa, both have 20k on them, in 2 weeks I will have a 30k sample
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