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Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** #4377748
04/12/17 10:14 AM
04/12/17 10:14 AM
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Posts: 300
Pacific NW USA
GemStater Offline OP
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Images posted below...

OIL: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 API CK-4
LAB: POLARIS Laboratories
MILES IN USE----------0
MILES----------------0
MANUFACTURE DATE: 3/07/17
PURCHASE DATE: 3/28/17
SAMPLE DATE: 3/31/17
TESTED DATE: 4/12/17


WEAR METALS (PPM)

IRON-----------1
CHROMIUM------0
NICKEL---------0
ALUMINUM------0
COPPER---------0
LEAD-----------0
TIN------------0
CADMIUM-------0
SILVER----------0
VANADIUM------0

CONTAMINANT METALS (PPM)

SILICON-------5
SODIUM-------2
POTASSIUM----5

MULTI-SOURCE METALS (PPM)


TITANIUM---------0
MOLYBDENUM-----1
ANTIMONY--------0
MANGANESE-------0
LITHIUM----------0
BORON-----------204

ADDITIVE METALS (PPM)

MAGNESIUM------10
CALCIUM--------2237
BARIUM----------0
PHOSPHORUS-----1020
ZINC------------1167

CONTAMINANTS

FUEL DILUTION-----0
SOOT-------------0
WATER------------(<.1)

FLUID PROPERTIES

cSt @ 100C----------12.2
TBN-----------------8.09
OXIDATION-----------13
NITRATION-----------5

Shell Rotella T5 Synthetic Blend SAE 10W-30 Triple Protection Plus


API Service CK-4



Manufacture date code 03/07/2017


Date of purchase 03/28/2017


Oil Analyzers Inc., private label program via POLARIS Laboratories - ISO 17025 A2LA Accredited


06 Honda Accord EX-L 3.0L Mobil 0W-20 AFE | Fram XG7313
02 Dodge Grand Caravan 3.3L - PP 5W-30 | Fram Ultra XG8A
69 Plymouth Road Runner 383 - Restoration
Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater] #4377793
04/12/17 11:02 AM
04/12/17 11:02 AM
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
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I'm curious how well T5 sells when it seems like T4 is just as stout in the additives pack.

Thanks for posting the numbers.

Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater] #4377979
04/12/17 04:10 PM
04/12/17 04:10 PM
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upstate NY
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Thanks for this VOA, GemStater. I appreciate your inclusion of the bottling date, too. Good job!

I hope to someday get a VOA of the CK-4 version of Delo XLE, I just need to remember to grab some at the shop that I get my services done at. I'm guessing that there is more interest in this Rotella T5 oil since Shell has maintained the higher phosphorus content, and XLE has gone the way of dual rated (lower phos) CK-4/SN.


2013 F150 XLT 5.0 4X4 101k miles
Edge 5W-30 / Fram 10575
Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater] #4377988
04/12/17 04:29 PM
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Starting TBN is low compared to when it was tested by PQIA.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/June%202014/shellrotellatT51030.htm


1992 Toyota Pickup--Harvest King Premium 10W-30--Fram PH3614
Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater] #4377994
04/12/17 04:49 PM
04/12/17 04:49 PM
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In the shop
53' Stude Offline
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Yeah, but that's not CK4 rated stuff either wink


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater] #4378040
04/12/17 06:29 PM
04/12/17 06:29 PM
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Down Under
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Thanks for the VOA of the new CK-4 Rotella 10W30 synblend.
Zinc = 1167 ppm
Boron = 204 ppm
Ca = 2237 ppm
TBN = 8.09
KV 100 = 12.2 cSt

Here is a link to the old Rotella 10W30 synblend that is API CJ-4 and SM
(Rotella 10W30 CJ-4 VOA)
Zinc = 1197 ppm
Boron = 23 ppm
Ca = 2234 ppm
TBN = 9.6
KV 100 = 11.55 cSt


The new API CK-4 oil has about the same zinc and calcium, with more Boron and it's a bit thicker, but with slightly lower TBN (this may be due to how the TBN is measured).

The new stuff looks good, but it doesn't appear to be dual rated (no API SN or SM or SL), probably because the zinc levels are too high to be SN (~ 850 ppm Zn). I suspect it would still be suitable to claim SL and be used in older cars that like high zinc oil, it's just a shame they don't claim this to make it obvious. I suspect it's a case of claim SN or claim nothing marketing.


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Castrol GTX Ultraclean 15W40 A3/B3 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: Reddy45] #4378494
04/13/17 10:12 AM
04/13/17 10:12 AM
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Posts: 300
Pacific NW USA
GemStater Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
I'm curious how well T5 sells when it seems like T4 is just as stout in the additives pack.

Thanks for posting the numbers.


I'd really like to see PQIA test this latest CK-4 T5. First to reconfirm ZDDP, but more specifically, I'd like to see the NOACK and CCS numbers now that Shell is utilizing a certain level of GTL base oils in is formulation.

Could we be seeing a HDEO equivalent Pennzoil Platinum in this oil? For the price, and with potential rebates, that would be hard to beat IMO.


06 Honda Accord EX-L 3.0L Mobil 0W-20 AFE | Fram XG7313
02 Dodge Grand Caravan 3.3L - PP 5W-30 | Fram Ultra XG8A
69 Plymouth Road Runner 383 - Restoration
Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater] #4380444
04/15/17 06:52 PM
04/15/17 06:52 PM
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Looking at the images of the container above, this oil is rated ACEA E9 which is a high quality European oil spec for heavy duty diesel engines. But if you read the detail of the ACEA sequences, the laboratory tests for the dual rated (petrol/gas and light duty diesel) A3/B3/B4 oils look very similar to the laboratory tests for the ACEA E6/E7/E9 oils. The biggest difference is in the engine tests where the E series of oils has a focus on achieving soot and wear tests for OEMs like Cummins and Mack.

Anyway I personally would have no problems using a E9 oil in an average petrol/gas engine. The E6 and E9 oils both require a Sulphated Ash level of 1.0 % or less, which places it squarely in PCMO territory.


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Castrol GTX Ultraclean 15W40 A3/B3 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater] #4380727
04/16/17 07:11 AM
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What's the HTHS of this oil? From reading about ACEA E9-16 specifications, it's supposed to be greater or equal to 3.5. Does that sound about right?

The NOACK is supposed to be less than or equal to 13. Thinking this oil might work good this Summer in my Toyota truck.

https://www.lubrizol.com/en/Lubricant-an...nces/ACEA-E9-16



1992 Toyota Pickup--Harvest King Premium 10W-30--Fram PH3614
Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: BigD1] #4381152
04/16/17 06:06 PM
04/16/17 06:06 PM
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Yes that is correct, it's ACEA E9 rated so the HTHS is 3.5cP or more, while the Noack is 13% or less.


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Castrol GTX Ultraclean 15W40 A3/B3 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: SR5] #4399042
05/08/17 06:43 AM
05/08/17 06:43 AM
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Tampa, FL
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Originally Posted By: SR5
Thanks for the VOA of the new CK-4 Rotella 10W30 synblend.
Zinc = 1167 ppm
Boron = 204 ppm
Ca = 2237 ppm
TBN = 8.09
KV 100 = 12.2 cSt

Here is a link to the old Rotella 10W30 synblend that is API CJ-4 and SM
(Rotella 10W30 CJ-4 VOA)
Zinc = 1197 ppm
Boron = 23 ppm
Ca = 2234 ppm
TBN = 9.6
KV 100 = 11.55 cSt


The new API CK-4 oil has about the same zinc and calcium, with more Boron and it's a bit thicker, but with slightly lower TBN (this may be due to how the TBN is measured).

The new stuff looks good, but it doesn't appear to be dual rated (no API SN or SM or SL), probably because the zinc levels are too high to be SN (~ 850 ppm Zn). I suspect it would still be suitable to claim SL and be used in older cars that like high zinc oil, it's just a shame they don't claim this to make it obvious. I suspect it's a case of claim SN or claim nothing marketing.




Here's a link for T5 Ck-4

Rotella T5 10W-30 CK-4


'08 Highlander Sport 3.5L V6
PP 5W-30 & Fram Ultra

'15 Corolla LE
PP 0W-20 & Fram Ultra

Honda EU2000i
Delo 400 SAE 30
Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater] #4399516
05/08/17 04:30 PM
05/08/17 04:30 PM
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Virginia
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Rebate on T5 and T6,

$5 on gallons, $12.50 on 2.5 gallon jugs...

Expires on December 31, 2017....

http://rotella.shell.com/coupons-rebates...XRpb25hbDE3Lw==


2009 Smart Pure
Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0W-40, Purolator Synthetic PSL 14610, 45 mpg...
185/55R15 General HP tires, "H" speed rated, 44 psi (300 kpa)
Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater] #4500861
08/28/17 10:19 PM
08/28/17 10:19 PM
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Pacific NW USA
GemStater Offline OP
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Pacific NW USA
Fixed broken images after photobucket fiasco. Special thanks to Flickr

Images below.

OIL: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 API CK-4
LAB: POLARIS Laboratories
MILES IN USE----------0
MILES----------------0
MANUFACTURE DATE: 3/07/17
PURCHASE DATE: 3/28/17
SAMPLE DATE: 3/31/17
TESTED DATE: 4/12/17


WEAR METALS (PPM)

IRON-----------1
CHROMIUM------0
NICKEL---------0
ALUMINUM------0
COPPER---------0
LEAD-----------0
TIN------------0
CADMIUM-------0
SILVER----------0
VANADIUM------0

CONTAMINANT METALS (PPM)

SILICON-------5
SODIUM-------2
POTASSIUM----5

MULTI-SOURCE METALS (PPM)


TITANIUM---------0
MOLYBDENUM-----1
ANTIMONY--------0
MANGANESE-------0
LITHIUM----------0
BORON-----------204

ADDITIVE METALS (PPM)

MAGNESIUM------10
CALCIUM--------2237
BARIUM----------0
PHOSPHORUS-----1020
ZINC------------1167

CONTAMINANTS

FUEL DILUTION-----0
SOOT-------------0
WATER------------(<.1)

FLUID PROPERTIES

cSt @ 100C----------12.2
TBN-----------------8.09
OXIDATION-----------13
NITRATION-----------5

Shell Rotella T5 Synthetic Blend SAE 10W-30 Triple Protection Plus


API Service CK-4



Manufacture date code 03/07/2017


Date of purchase 03/28/2017


Oil Analyzers Inc., private label program via POLARIS Laboratories - ISO 17025 A2LA Accredited



06 Honda Accord EX-L 3.0L Mobil 0W-20 AFE | Fram XG7313
02 Dodge Grand Caravan 3.3L - PP 5W-30 | Fram Ultra XG8A
69 Plymouth Road Runner 383 - Restoration

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