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#4377748 - 04/12/17 11:14 AM Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4***
GemStater Offline


Registered: 10/27/14
Posts: 285
Loc: Pacific NW USA
Images posted below...

OIL: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 API CK-4
LAB: POLARIS Laboratories
MILES IN USE----------0
MILES----------------0
MANUFACTURE DATE: 3/07/17
PURCHASE DATE: 3/28/17
SAMPLE DATE: 3/31/17
TESTED DATE: 4/12/17


WEAR METALS (PPM)

IRON-----------1
CHROMIUM------0
NICKEL---------0
ALUMINUM------0
COPPER---------0
LEAD-----------0
TIN------------0
CADMIUM-------0
SILVER----------0
VANADIUM------0

CONTAMINANT METALS (PPM)

SILICON-------5
SODIUM-------2
POTASSIUM----5

MULTI-SOURCE METALS (PPM)


TITANIUM---------0
MOLYBDENUM-----1
ANTIMONY--------0
MANGANESE-------0
LITHIUM----------0
BORON-----------204

ADDITIVE METALS (PPM)

MAGNESIUM------10
CALCIUM--------2237
BARIUM----------0
PHOSPHORUS-----1020
ZINC------------1167

CONTAMINANTS

FUEL DILUTION-----0
SOOT-------------0
WATER------------(<.1)

FLUID PROPERTIES

cSt @ 100C----------12.2
TBN-----------------8.09
OXIDATION-----------13
NITRATION-----------5

Shell Rotella T5 Synthetic Blend SAE 10W-30 Triple Protection Plus


API Service CK-4



Manufacture date code 03/07/2017


Date of purchase 03/28/2017


Oil Analyzers Inc., private label program via POLARIS Laboratories - ISO 17025 A2LA Accredited
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#4377793 - 04/12/17 12:02 PM Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater]
Reddy45 Offline


Registered: 08/15/08
Posts: 2973
Loc: USA
I'm curious how well T5 sells when it seems like T4 is just as stout in the additives pack.

Thanks for posting the numbers.

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#4377979 - 04/12/17 05:10 PM Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater]
dustyroads Offline


Registered: 05/13/13
Posts: 1065
Loc: upstate NY
Thanks for this VOA, GemStater. I appreciate your inclusion of the bottling date, too. Good job!

I hope to someday get a VOA of the CK-4 version of Delo XLE, I just need to remember to grab some at the shop that I get my services done at. I'm guessing that there is more interest in this Rotella T5 oil since Shell has maintained the higher phosphorus content, and XLE has gone the way of dual rated (lower phos) CK-4/SN.
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#4377988 - 04/12/17 05:29 PM Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater]
BigD1 Offline


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 2575
Loc: NC
Starting TBN is low compared to when it was tested by PQIA.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/June%202014/shellrotellatT51030.htm
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#4377994 - 04/12/17 05:49 PM Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater]
car51 Offline


Registered: 03/12/15
Posts: 10257
Loc: Southwest PA
Yeah, but that's not CK4 rated stuff either wink
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#4378040 - 04/12/17 07:29 PM Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater]
SR5 Offline


Registered: 07/07/15
Posts: 4468
Loc: Down Under
Thanks for the VOA of the new CK-4 Rotella 10W30 synblend.
Zinc = 1167 ppm
Boron = 204 ppm
Ca = 2237 ppm
TBN = 8.09
KV 100 = 12.2 cSt

Here is a link to the old Rotella 10W30 synblend that is API CJ-4 and SM
(Rotella 10W30 CJ-4 VOA)
Zinc = 1197 ppm
Boron = 23 ppm
Ca = 2234 ppm
TBN = 9.6
KV 100 = 11.55 cSt


The new API CK-4 oil has about the same zinc and calcium, with more Boron and it's a bit thicker, but with slightly lower TBN (this may be due to how the TBN is measured).

The new stuff looks good, but it doesn't appear to be dual rated (no API SN or SM or SL), probably because the zinc levels are too high to be SN (~ 850 ppm Zn). I suspect it would still be suitable to claim SL and be used in older cars that like high zinc oil, it's just a shame they don't claim this to make it obvious. I suspect it's a case of claim SN or claim nothing marketing.
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#4378494 - 04/13/17 11:12 AM Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: Reddy45]
GemStater Offline


Registered: 10/27/14
Posts: 285
Loc: Pacific NW USA
Originally Posted By: Reddy45
I'm curious how well T5 sells when it seems like T4 is just as stout in the additives pack.

Thanks for posting the numbers.


I'd really like to see PQIA test this latest CK-4 T5. First to reconfirm ZDDP, but more specifically, I'd like to see the NOACK and CCS numbers now that Shell is utilizing a certain level of GTL base oils in is formulation.

Could we be seeing a HDEO equivalent Pennzoil Platinum in this oil? For the price, and with potential rebates, that would be hard to beat IMO.
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#4380444 - 04/15/17 07:52 PM Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater]
SR5 Offline


Registered: 07/07/15
Posts: 4468
Loc: Down Under
Looking at the images of the container above, this oil is rated ACEA E9 which is a high quality European oil spec for heavy duty diesel engines. But if you read the detail of the ACEA sequences, the laboratory tests for the dual rated (petrol/gas and light duty diesel) A3/B3/B4 oils look very similar to the laboratory tests for the ACEA E6/E7/E9 oils. The biggest difference is in the engine tests where the E series of oils has a focus on achieving soot and wear tests for OEMs like Cummins and Mack.

Anyway I personally would have no problems using a E9 oil in an average petrol/gas engine. The E6 and E9 oils both require a Sulphated Ash level of 1.0 % or less, which places it squarely in PCMO territory.
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#4380727 - 04/16/17 08:11 AM Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater]
BigD1 Offline


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 2575
Loc: NC
What's the HTHS of this oil? From reading about ACEA E9-16 specifications, it's supposed to be greater or equal to 3.5. Does that sound about right?

The NOACK is supposed to be less than or equal to 13. Thinking this oil might work good this Summer in my Toyota truck.

https://www.lubrizol.com/en/Lubricant-an...nces/ACEA-E9-16

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#4381152 - 04/16/17 07:06 PM Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: BigD1]
SR5 Offline


Registered: 07/07/15
Posts: 4468
Loc: Down Under
Yes that is correct, it's ACEA E9 rated so the HTHS is 3.5cP or more, while the Noack is 13% or less.
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#4399042 - 05/08/17 07:43 AM Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: SR5]
rummy Offline


Registered: 07/27/16
Posts: 68
Loc: Fort Campbell, KY
Originally Posted By: SR5
Thanks for the VOA of the new CK-4 Rotella 10W30 synblend.
Zinc = 1167 ppm
Boron = 204 ppm
Ca = 2237 ppm
TBN = 8.09
KV 100 = 12.2 cSt

Here is a link to the old Rotella 10W30 synblend that is API CJ-4 and SM
(Rotella 10W30 CJ-4 VOA)
Zinc = 1197 ppm
Boron = 23 ppm
Ca = 2234 ppm
TBN = 9.6
KV 100 = 11.55 cSt


The new API CK-4 oil has about the same zinc and calcium, with more Boron and it's a bit thicker, but with slightly lower TBN (this may be due to how the TBN is measured).

The new stuff looks good, but it doesn't appear to be dual rated (no API SN or SM or SL), probably because the zinc levels are too high to be SN (~ 850 ppm Zn). I suspect it would still be suitable to claim SL and be used in older cars that like high zinc oil, it's just a shame they don't claim this to make it obvious. I suspect it's a case of claim SN or claim nothing marketing.




Here's a link for T5 Ck-4

Rotella T5 10W-30 CK-4
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Pennzoil Euro 0W-40 & Fram Ultra

'15 Corolla LE
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#4399516 - 05/08/17 05:30 PM Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater]
mattwithcats Online   sleepy


Registered: 06/13/13
Posts: 1662
Loc: Virginia
Rebate on T5 and T6,

$5 on gallons, $12.50 on 2.5 gallon jugs...

Expires on December 31, 2017....

http://rotella.shell.com/coupons-rebates...XRpb25hbDE3Lw==
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#4500861 - 08/28/17 11:19 PM Re: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 ***API CK-4*** [Re: GemStater]
GemStater Offline


Registered: 10/27/14
Posts: 285
Loc: Pacific NW USA
Fixed broken images after photobucket fiasco. Special thanks to Flickr

Images below.

OIL: Shell Rotella T5 10W-30 API CK-4
LAB: POLARIS Laboratories
MILES IN USE----------0
MILES----------------0
MANUFACTURE DATE: 3/07/17
PURCHASE DATE: 3/28/17
SAMPLE DATE: 3/31/17
TESTED DATE: 4/12/17


WEAR METALS (PPM)

IRON-----------1
CHROMIUM------0
NICKEL---------0
ALUMINUM------0
COPPER---------0
LEAD-----------0
TIN------------0
CADMIUM-------0
SILVER----------0
VANADIUM------0

CONTAMINANT METALS (PPM)

SILICON-------5
SODIUM-------2
POTASSIUM----5

MULTI-SOURCE METALS (PPM)


TITANIUM---------0
MOLYBDENUM-----1
ANTIMONY--------0
MANGANESE-------0
LITHIUM----------0
BORON-----------204

ADDITIVE METALS (PPM)

MAGNESIUM------10
CALCIUM--------2237
BARIUM----------0
PHOSPHORUS-----1020
ZINC------------1167

CONTAMINANTS

FUEL DILUTION-----0
SOOT-------------0
WATER------------(<.1)

FLUID PROPERTIES

cSt @ 100C----------12.2
TBN-----------------8.09
OXIDATION-----------13
NITRATION-----------5

Shell Rotella T5 Synthetic Blend SAE 10W-30 Triple Protection Plus


API Service CK-4



Manufacture date code 03/07/2017


Date of purchase 03/28/2017


Oil Analyzers Inc., private label program via POLARIS Laboratories - ISO 17025 A2LA Accredited

_________________________
06 Honda Accord EX-L 3.0L Mobil 0W-20 AFE | Fram XG7313
02 Dodge Grand Caravan 3.3L - PP 5W-30 | Fram Ultra XG8A
69 Plymouth Road Runner 383 - Restoration

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