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#4367839 - 03/30/17 08:35 PM 2015 BMW 328d, 5000 miles, Dealer Fill
DrivinWest Offline


Registered: 05/19/09
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Loc: Boulder, Colorado
So BITOG crew, this doesn't look too good. This is my new 2015 BMW 328d. The car sat unsold for a year but the dealer did change the oil (I have the records) shortly before I bought it.



For good measure I replaced the engine air filter. Thoughts?


Edited by DrivinWest (03/30/17 08:39 PM)
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#4367844 - 03/30/17 08:37 PM Re: 2015 BMW 328d, 5000 miles, Dealer Fill [Re: DrivinWest]
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That is a really odd report, I would say well beyond what is normal for break in.

Thanks for fixing the image size.


Edited by PolarisX (03/30/17 08:51 PM)
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#4367846 - 03/30/17 08:39 PM Re: 2015 BMW 328d, 5000 miles, Dealer Fill [Re: DrivinWest]
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Can't read it.
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#4367862 - 03/30/17 08:54 PM Re: 2015 BMW 328d, 5000 miles, Dealer Fill [Re: DrivinWest]
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Call BMW corporate and ask, document
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#4367863 - 03/30/17 08:55 PM Re: 2015 BMW 328d, 5000 miles, Dealer Fill [Re: DrivinWest]
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Is it just me or is the zinc really low, or is it the low saps thing?
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#4367888 - 03/30/17 09:31 PM Re: 2015 BMW 328d, 5000 miles, Dealer Fill [Re: PolarisX]
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Originally Posted By: PolarisX
Is it just me or is the zinc really low, or is it the low saps thing?

It's a low-SAPS oil.

These look like break-in metals to me. The EcoDiesel has similar results. Don't panic. Get another UOA at 10,000.
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#4368220 - 03/31/17 09:58 AM Re: 2015 BMW 328d, 5000 miles, Dealer Fill [Re: DrivinWest]
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Originally Posted By: DrivinWest

For good measure I replaced the engine air filter. Thoughts?

What are you measuring? You should replace the tires too, for good measure.
Sarcasm aside, the only thing you can get out of a UOA from an engine this young is fuel dilution and viscosity, TBN. I would not even trust those numbers with all that [censored] floating in the oil. Let the engine settle, the UOA was a waste.
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#4368484 - 03/31/17 03:55 PM Re: 2015 BMW 328d, 5000 miles, Dealer Fill [Re: DrivinWest]
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That oil is pretty thin.
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#4368699 - 03/31/17 08:37 PM Re: 2015 BMW 328d, 5000 miles, Dealer Fill [Re: DrivinWest]
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It is pretty thin, probably 0W20 FE oil.
In my X5 35d I ran Mobil Delvac 1 LE 5W30 (an ACEA E6 oil, HTHS~3.7) for several OCIs, Fe levels and TBNs were better than LL-04 oil. Now I am deleted and expect much better wear numbers with absent EGR, may try Delvac 1 SHC 5W40 (ACEA B3/B4)

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#4368703 - 03/31/17 08:39 PM Re: 2015 BMW 328d, 5000 miles, Dealer Fill [Re: DrivinWest]
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Id imagine its still breaking in, I wouldn't worry until a few reports don't show a change. I thought most diesels don't "break in" until 40k, but that may be an internet tale i read on the TDi forums.
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#4369363 - 04/01/17 04:36 PM Re: 2015 BMW 328d, 5000 miles, Dealer Fill [Re: m37charlie]
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Registered: 05/19/09
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Originally Posted By: m37charlie
It is pretty thin, probably 0W20 FE oil.

It's supposed to be a 5W-30. It's not impossible that the dealer put 0W-20 in it if that's what the dealer had lying around.
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#4370976 - 04/03/17 04:50 PM Re: 2015 BMW 328d, 5000 miles, Dealer Fill [Re: DrivinWest]
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That is some troublesome UOA. First of all, oil is too thin! After 5K LL-04 5W30 should not go below 11, maybe 10.5. I would not be surprised if they put 0W20. If they did indeed put LL-04, and it seems that is possibility considering some additive numbers, then maybe fuel dilution is an issue.
Try to do UOA at 10K, and use Mobil1 5W30 ESP or some other LL-04 oil and see.
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#4375460 - 04/09/17 02:02 PM Re: 2015 BMW 328d, 5000 miles, Dealer Fill [Re: DrivinWest]
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Did you change the oil?
If not, just change it. Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 is a good choice.
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#4375938 - 04/10/17 07:38 AM Re: 2015 BMW 328d, 5000 miles, Dealer Fill [Re: DrivinWest]
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I think you should have passed on doing a UOA on the factory/dealer fill oil on a brand new diesel engine and saved yourself the stress.
If you didnt do it, you wouldnt have known anything and chances are its not abnormal. :o)

I think it is fine unless you can compare the same exact vehicle with the same "break in" oil and a UOA to show something different and even then if it was different still wouldnt change my mind much as its a brand new engine with original oil/dealer oil..


Edited by alarmguy (04/10/17 07:40 AM)
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#4376188 - 04/10/17 02:18 PM Re: 2015 BMW 328d, 5000 miles, Dealer Fill [Re: DrivinWest]
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Registered: 03/10/17
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What do BMW say the interval is for this engine in the US?

My Father has the same 185bhp 2.0 diesel engine in a 2012 3 series in the UK but it's called the 320d. BMW suggest an LL-04 oil and 18,000miles or 2 year intervals which I think is lunacy.
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