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VWB 5w30, 5k OCI '16 F350 6.2l #4364887
03/27/17 02:44 PM
03/27/17 02:44 PM
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Ice Box of the Nation
Doublehaul Offline OP
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This winter sample was just changed. It was replaced with VWB 5w30 and a Fram Ultra. Prior fill was M1ep. This oil saw a ton of idling ( over an hour to two a day), lots of plowing, and towing and temps to the -25f to -30f range. Filter was a parts master.



Last edited by Doublehaul; 03/27/17 02:48 PM.

2016 F-350 XLT 4x4 6.2l V8 4.30 SRW
Boss DXT Stainless V-Plow

Valvoline VWB 5w30
Fram Ultra XG-2
Re: VWB 5w30, 5k OCI '16 F350 6.2l [Re: Doublehaul] #4364932
03/27/17 03:44 PM
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Cincinnati
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Valvoline is so underrated here. Almost every UOA is fantastic.


2008 Silverado Z71 LT 90k Maxlife FS 5w30
2010 Ford Escape 172k QSUD 5w20
2016 Yamaha XSR900 12k, Rotella 15w40 Yamaha Filter.
Re: VWB 5w30, 5k OCI '16 F350 6.2l [Re: Doublehaul] #4364937
03/27/17 03:46 PM
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agreed...the UOAs always look fantastic. I don't know of another brand that shows better. That said, ive got a buyer(well actually a trade) for the huge stash of VWB i purchased...i may switch to synpower and a 10k oci...not sure. This VWB is working very well...so i may just keep it and cary on.

Last edited by Doublehaul; 03/27/17 03:51 PM.

2016 F-350 XLT 4x4 6.2l V8 4.30 SRW
Boss DXT Stainless V-Plow

Valvoline VWB 5w30
Fram Ultra XG-2
Re: VWB 5w30, 5k OCI '16 F350 6.2l [Re: donnyj08] #4364955
03/27/17 04:00 PM
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Colorado
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Originally Posted By: donnyj08
Valvoline is so underrated here. Almost every UOA is fantastic.


+1!

thumbsup


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: VWB 5w30, 5k OCI '16 F350 6.2l [Re: Doublehaul] #4365003
03/27/17 05:01 PM
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I can't repeat what's already been said so I wont...valvoline conv is outstanding and I'm not sure I'd make the change to syn.


2012 F-150 5.0-Pennzoil Platinum 5w30/Amsoil Eao17
Re: VWB 5w30, 5k OCI '16 F350 6.2l [Re: Doublehaul] #4365150
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Mid-Tenn
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Great report! I'm not surprised though, Valvoline makes really good lubricants! I've been using Valvoline products for forty years now and couldn't be more pleased. Thanks for sharing!

Re: VWB 5w30, 5k OCI '16 F350 6.2l [Re: Doublehaul] #4365205
03/27/17 09:05 PM
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A good UOA showing from Valvoline conventional.


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Re: VWB 5w30, 5k OCI '16 F350 6.2l [Re: Kuato] #4645798
01/25/18 10:12 AM
01/25/18 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: Kuato
Originally Posted By: donnyj08
Valvoline is so underrated here. Almost every UOA is fantastic.


+1!

thumbsup


How does a UOA tell much about the quality of an oil?


2007 Ford Fusion 235,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 60K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: VWB 5w30, 5k OCI '16 F350 6.2l [Re: tig1] #4645865
01/25/18 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Originally Posted By: donnyj08
Valvoline is so underrated here. Almost every UOA is fantastic.


+1!

thumbsup


How does a UOA tell much about the quality of an oil?


Depends upon how you define "quality of the oil" ... "Quality" is not well defined in your question.

If you are going to talk about base stocks, or other things that don't have a direct effect on wear, then it won't. Things like vis, FP etc can vary widely, and yet not directly affect wear (if at all) until they are GROSSLY out of spec.

If you are going to talk about wear metal rates, which shows how the whole system is working in concert (or perhaps in cacophony), then the UOA will let you know how the oil is performing.



Engines that have good lube system design, and don't stress the lubes much, will do well with about any lube. Think of the 4.6L Ford or the Duramax, for a couple of examples. Really does not matter what goes in the crankcase as long as it's reasonably close to the spec (grade can vary a bit, etc). So the UOA is telling you that the combination of the lube, plus the design and manufacturing of the equipment, are working well together.

Conversely, there are engines that have much higher wear rates; the old 350 SBC will shed about 5-7ppm Fe every 1k miles, or more. it does not wear well at all, but that does not stop it from running well. And no matter what lube you use, it won't affect the wear rates that much.

Each engine family has a "normal" wear trend tendency, and each individual engine produced will have a unique response within that sense of "normal".


UOAs can certainly tell us about the performance of a lube, but that performance ("quality", if you will) is only a part of the overall interaction. You can make some generalization and be OK.


The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: VWB 5w30, 5k OCI '16 F350 6.2l [Re: tig1] #4646112
01/25/18 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Originally Posted By: donnyj08
Valvoline is so underrated here. Almost every UOA is fantastic.


+1!

thumbsup


How does a UOA tell much about the quality of an oil?


Yeah tig1 please educate all of us and no M1 preaching this time wink


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VWB 5w30, 5k OCI '16 F350 6.2l [Re: tig1] #4646121
01/25/18 04:01 PM
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Wet side WA
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Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Originally Posted By: donnyj08
Valvoline is so underrated here. Almost every UOA is fantastic.


+1!

thumbsup


How does a UOA tell much about the quality of an oil?


LOL I really needed a good laugh this afternoon!


2004 Corolla 126649
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: VWB 5w30, 5k OCI '16 F350 6.2l [Re: tig1] #4646570
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Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Originally Posted By: donnyj08
Valvoline is so underrated here. Almost every UOA is fantastic.


+1!

thumbsup


How does a UOA tell much about the quality of an oil?


How does gender define sex tig1?

Re: VWB 5w30, 5k OCI '16 F350 6.2l [Re: 53' Stude] #4648782
01/28/18 09:03 AM
01/28/18 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted By: car51
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Originally Posted By: donnyj08
Valvoline is so underrated here. Almost every UOA is fantastic.


+1!

thumbsup


How does a UOA tell much about the quality of an oil?


Yeah tig1 please educate all of us and no M1 preaching this time wink


Car 51. Are you aware that Blackstone can't tell the difference between dino and synthetic oil? I actually spoke to them about that. The real value in cheap UOAs is to determine the condition of the oil. Like dirt, fuel, or coolant contamination, or possibly a serious wear trend. Outside of the most pathetic oils there are(Car 51 maybe you can "educate" us what they are) UOAs can't determine "much about the quality of an oil".


2007 Ford Fusion 235,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 60K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: VWB 5w30, 5k OCI '16 F350 6.2l [Re: Doublehaul] #4648822
01/28/18 09:39 AM
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TIG1: I see you don't know how to answer questions. THANKS FOR NOTHING smile


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VWB 5w30, 5k OCI '16 F350 6.2l [Re: 53' Stude] #4648850
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Originally Posted By: car51
TIG1: I see you don't know how to answer questions. THANKS FOR NOTHING smile


It's spank difficult, but I try.


2007 Ford Fusion 235,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 60K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

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