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Virgin Mobil 1 M1-210A Annual Filter C&P #4345504
03/04/17 03:46 PM
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Katy, Republic of Texas
blupupher Offline OP
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Well, here is the new Mobil 1 Extended Performance 1 yr/20,000 mile oil filter cut and posted for your viewing pleasure.
It is a M1-210A because they are all the same price, and that was the size that fit my truck, so it was my choice. smile

Box:




Can:

Date code of December 12, 2016:


Internal:


Louvers:


Baseplate with silicone ADV:


And pleat spacing:










Top of filter element with bypass button:


I guess this is excess glue, it would not rub off:


Everything:


Side by side with Motorcraft FL-820S:




Hefty filter, 1 lb, 0.9 oz:


Motorcraft is 12.9 oz:


M1 baseplate:


Purolator baseplate:


And a ST2 filter just for weight comparison:


2012 xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k
2010 Santa Fe: PP 0w-20/P1/8k
2007 Vue: VSP 5w-30/EcoGard/OLM
2004 F150: GTX HM 5w-20/TG2/4k
2002 F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard/1yr
1994 VT1100c: Peak 15w-40/PSL/5k



Re: Virgin Mobil 1 M1-210A Annual Filter C&P [Re: blupupher] #4345510
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Nice work !

Re: Virgin Mobil 1 M1-210A Annual Filter C&P [Re: blupupher] #4345511
03/04/17 03:51 PM
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Colorado
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Thanks for that!


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: Virgin Mobil 1 M1-210A Annual Filter C&P [Re: blupupher] #4345520
03/04/17 04:11 PM
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Katy, Republic of Texas
blupupher Offline OP
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Oops, I put the wrong date, it was made 12/01/16, not 12/12/16.

Re: Virgin Mobil 1 M1-210A Annual Filter C&P [Re: blupupher] #4345524
03/04/17 04:22 PM
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thank you very much for the C&P. Doesn't look like they did much to change it at all.


2004 Toyota Solara SE 2.4 2AZFE
182,000 miles
Castrol Magnatec Semi-Syn 5W30
Royal Purple 20-400 oversize 2nd run
Re: Virgin Mobil 1 M1-210A Annual Filter C&P [Re: blupupher] #4345526
03/04/17 04:25 PM
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In the shop
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Nice job sir! smile

Pleat spacing, Sean area on M1 filter is fugly!


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Virgin Mobil 1 M1-210A Annual Filter C&P [Re: blupupher] #4345543
03/04/17 05:11 PM
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Yeah, that's some ugly pleat spacing there crzy


2018 RAM 1500 Big Horn EcoDiesel
2016 Grand Cherokee SRT
Re: Virgin Mobil 1 M1-210A Annual Filter C&P [Re: blupupher] #4345572
03/04/17 05:41 PM
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USA
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Thank you for the cut and post smile

The pleat spacing at the seam is so wide eek

Re: Virgin Mobil 1 M1-210A Annual Filter C&P [Re: 53' Stude] #4345575
03/04/17 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: car51
Nice job sir! smile

Pleat spacing, Sean area on M1 filter is fugly!


Yip, not to my liking...

Re: Virgin Mobil 1 M1-210A Annual Filter C&P [Re: blupupher] #4345631
03/04/17 07:21 PM
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First off, thanks for the post... I will say I'm not in love with that spacing, i guess id have to see how they hold up after a run...


2012 F-150 5.0-Pennzoil Platinum 5w30/Amsoil Eao17
Re: Virgin Mobil 1 M1-210A Annual Filter C&P [Re: blupupher] #4345643
03/04/17 07:36 PM
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I'd bet it would "possibly" tear as that seam spacing is downright shameful

Heavens, the Parts Plus 820 I cut and posted looks better wink

Last edited by car51; 03/04/17 07:37 PM.

09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Virgin Mobil 1 M1-210A Annual Filter C&P [Re: 53' Stude] #4345646
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I'd rather run an Ultra for 20k miles. Just the media looks so much better compared to the M1.

Re: Virgin Mobil 1 M1-210A Annual Filter C&P [Re: SatinSilver] #4345656
03/04/17 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
I'd rather run an Ultra for 20k miles. Just the media looks so much better compared to the M1.


Very true smile


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Virgin Mobil 1 M1-210A Annual Filter C&P [Re: blupupher] #4345713
03/04/17 09:14 PM
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Katy, Republic of Texas
blupupher Offline OP
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Well, I held my comments for a bit till others posted, but basically I had the same thoughts. The pleat spacing is horrible.
Yes this is only 1 filter, so this may be an anomaly, but it was the one on the shelf that I grabbed, so any other filter could look the same.

I will say the filter is hefty. The can is thick and base plate is heavy. No burrs or sharp points on the holes either.
I don't have access to a good micrometer, but the cheap plastic HF one I have shows the can to be almost 1 mm thick.
The Motorcraft is 1/2 that. Even cut open, the can is stiff, where the Motorcraft is easily flexible.
This can took a little longer to cut than the Motorcraft did.

I have no way to judge the media except by feel, and well, it feels like media. At least the Ultra looks different (because we all know looks are what matters).
I will be cutting it once I get another razor blade for my utility knife (thought I had more) and will post those pics up here also.
Center tube is louvers, but they look fine and I have no issues with properly done louvers.

Overall, not impressed.
I just don't see the justification for the price. Seems they are heavily relying on the Mobil 1 name as well as their new oil.
Buy Mobil 1 Annual oil, gotta buy a Mobil 1 Annual filter, right?
A Fram Ultra is just a better all around filter for less money (and the Napa Platinum is on sale now for about the same price as the Ultra).
Neither of them are marketed as 1 year/20,000 mile filters though (but we here know they could handle it).


Funny thing is I went to Walmart looking for some of the Bosch Distance Plus for $5, but both Walmarts I went to did not even have shelf space for them anymore.
I had about $8 left on a Walmart giftcard from work so figured I would not make it a wasted trip.

I do find it ironic that I have had 3 new filters for my truck, This M1, the Motorcraft FL820s and a Supertech, and the only one I actually plan on using is the Supertech crzy.


2012 xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k
2010 Santa Fe: PP 0w-20/P1/8k
2007 Vue: VSP 5w-30/EcoGard/OLM
2004 F150: GTX HM 5w-20/TG2/4k
2002 F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard/1yr
1994 VT1100c: Peak 15w-40/PSL/5k



Re: Virgin Mobil 1 M1-210A Annual Filter C&P [Re: blupupher] #4345716
03/04/17 09:19 PM
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Bosch and Fram High Mileage are gone together with their shelf space in my local Walmart also.


2015 Mercedes Sprinter, 2.1 4cyl diesel, 42k
2011 Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen TDI, 100k
2004 Dodge Sprinter 2.7 5cyl diesel,779k
Except for chainsaws and lawnmowers, no sparkplugs needed in my stable.
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