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Re: Transmission Service on 2000 F150? [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4318801 02/01/17 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
If your transmission doesn't have a drain plug, see if Dorman makes a transmission pan for your truck. Dorman pans include a drain plug for easy ATF changes smile

Maxlife is awesome ATF, unbeatable for a full synthetic ATF in terms of price and availability.


The Dorman pans seem like a good idea but when I used it with the oem gm gasket on my 4T65e it leaked some. I went back to the oem pan


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Re: Transmission Service on 2000 F150? [Re: i_hate_autofraud] #4318816 02/01/17 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: i_hate_autofraud

Yup, get rid of the old filter, they're designed smaller to clog up way early to make money off customers, gone are the days you can run on the same filter and fluid for 20 yrs!


Are you high, Or do you just randomly make $hit up??


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Re: Transmission Service on 2000 F150? [Re: lawnguy] #4318821 02/01/17 10:40 PM
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Do a pan drop and change the filter. Don't do a flush (especially a power flush that uses chemicals). You could do a "flush" using the cooler line letting the trucks pump do the work (several how to's online), but still do a pan drop.

As said, a 2000 may have a torque converter drain plug, makes it easy to get most all the fluid out at once without "flushing" it.
I installed a drain plug in mine, wish I had gone with the Dorman pan, only like $25 on amazon, and no chance of it leaking like installing a drain plug yourself. Mine does not have a torque converter plug, so I have done several drain and fills after I did the initial filter change. AS said above, with a drain plug, it is a quick thing to do a drain and fill (I will do it every 10,000 miles, it gets 4 qts out of ~14 qts in the system). I keep debating installing an inline filter.

You don't mention if you have the 4R70W or 4R100. Both can use Mercon V though (4R100 originally spec'ed for Mercon, but there is no licensed Mercon fluid anymore, and it has been back spec'ed for it).

Amazon has Havoline Mercon V for around $45 sometimes for 12 qts, as well as Supertech Mercon V for $4.27/qt at Walmart. First change I used the Supertech Mercon V, the last 3 I have used Maxlife. I have also used Maxlife in my BIL F150.
Some have issue with Maxlife being too thin (5.9 cSt @ 100C) compared to Mercon V (7.5 cSt @ 100C), but seems I had read that Mercon V shears quickly to lower than what Maxlife is, and Maxlife is more sheer stable.


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Re: Transmission Service on 2000 F150? [Re: cb_13] #4318823 02/01/17 10:42 PM
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Your F150 was originally specced for Mercon. And in 2006/2007 Ford upgraded Mercon to Mercon V. Maxlife may be awesome, but it doesn't meet the Mercon V specs.

Ford ATF specs

A 2000 with 4R70 would have been originally spec' for Mercon V. Not sure exactly when the spec changed but my 98 had Mercon V on the dipstick and called for it in the owners manual.


Interesting. In any case, it takes Mercon V today.

4R100 and manual 5 speed F150's in 2000 take the Mercon

The Ford AX4N went through a similar Mercon to Mercon V change between 1997 and 2002. As my 1997 and 2002 were specced for different fluids.


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Re: Transmission Service on 2000 F150? [Re: lawnguy] #4319827 02/03/17 09:31 AM
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Original post what was the charge for flush on f150?

Incidentally, on my expedition that has never towed, the large factory magnet inside the pan had about 5 ounces of metal shavings attached to it (little more than half filled 8 0z cup with roughly 160k miles).
The dorman pan also has a slot for this strong magnet.

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Re: Transmission Service on 2000 F150? [Re: lawnguy] #4320247 02/03/17 05:07 PM
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For anyone on the fence about the Dorman trans pan, I installed on one my 4r75e (same pan as your 4r70). It is nearly identical in every way compared to the original. Same shape, thickness, provision for the magnet, same gasket flange. A perfect fit. No leaks reusing the factory gasket.

As a skeptic of most Dorman products (I've gotten some Dorman junk in the past), this trans pan was a pleasant surprise. For anyone hemming and hawing due to the Dorman label, don't worry in this case. It's a fine replacement.



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Re: Transmission Service on 2000 F150? [Re: lawnguy] #4320445 02/03/17 09:26 PM
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I put a Doorman on my 97 F150. No regrets. No leaks. I do a fluid drain and replace every other oil change now to freshen up the fluid. I use the Supertech Mercon V.


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Re: Transmission Service on 2000 F150? [Re: cb_13] #4320451 02/03/17 09:35 PM
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Yup, get rid of the old filter, they're designed smaller to clog up way early to make money off customers, gone are the days you can run on the same filter and fluid for 20 yrs!

You mean gone are the days of a metal screen. Most apllications use actual filters now and therefore can clog up.


I guess you forgot the "LOL"

I do know 60's - 80's Chrysler A727 and A904 trannies all had actual filters, mostly to catch the clutch plate wear materials. I never "had" to change them either, I'm sure OEMs noticed and made smaller filters to force customers to the garage!

Re: Transmission Service on 2000 F150? [Re: emmett442] #4320948 02/04/17 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: emmett442
For anyone on the fence about the Dorman trans pan, I installed on one my 4r75e (same pan as your 4r70). It is nearly identical in every way compared to the original. Same shape, thickness, provision for the magnet, same gasket flange. A perfect fit. No leaks reusing the factory gasket.

As a skeptic of most Dorman products (I've gotten some Dorman junk in the past), this trans pan was a pleasant surprise. For anyone hemming and hawing due to the Dorman label, don't worry in this case. It's a fine replacement.



The dorman pans could just as well have Ford stamped on them, they are really nice. And cheap too! I have 3 installed, factory ones had flange rust and leaks, and for $20 bucks I'm not messing with it (I also have the awesome drain plug, no more mercon showers). Wish all their products were that good. Old pans make good tool bins when I work on things.

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Re: Transmission Service on 2000 F150? [Re: i_hate_autofraud] #4323768 02/07/17 10:16 PM
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Yup, get rid of the old filter, they're designed smaller to clog up way early to make money off customers, gone are the days you can run on the same filter and fluid for 20 yrs!

You mean gone are the days of a metal screen. Most apllications use actual filters now and therefore can clog up.


I guess you forgot the "LOL"

I do know 60's - 80's Chrysler A727 and A904 trannies all had actual filters, mostly to catch the clutch plate wear materials. I never "had" to change them either, I'm sure OEMs noticed and made smaller filters to force customers to the garage!


And I guess you forgot your tinfoil hat! The planned obsolescence theory is way outdated.

Re: Transmission Service on 2000 F150? [Re: lawnguy] #4323923 02/08/17 07:42 AM
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I've used supertech, valvoline, castrol and house brand Mercon V, never a problem with either.


i would avoid the flush as well, just do a pan drop and maybe drain the torque converter, will probably be around 13 quarts to fill it all back up again.


and yes depending on the transmission it may only be mercon not mercon V

i know the 4R70w from 98 and on spec'ed Mercon V but my 98 f250 and my dad's 2000 f250 with the 4R100 take regular mercon.


It will say on the dipstick/owners manual what fluid it should take.

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Re: Transmission Service on 2000 F150? [Re: lawnguy] #4324121 02/08/17 11:48 AM
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I'd stick with Mercon V - no need to go fancy here although MaxLife is cheaper. Drop the pan, change the filter with OEM or the US-made Allomatic and if you have a torque converter plug, it's not a bad idea to drain that as well.

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Originally Posted by lawnguy
Does it really matter if I just get a trans, flush with the machine using kendall fully synthetic,or having it done by dropping the pan,etc ? My truck has 115l miles on it,and I bought it used not knowing the previous history. I do know that that it bought bought brand new and used by a county municipality.

Old post but there might have a converter drain plug. In that case, drop the pan, change the filter, throw out the shipping plug and change it all.

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