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Re: 2018 Toyota Camry - Redesigned [Re: Nick1994] #4298179
01/09/17 10:04 PM
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Moving away from the "corset" front but still has some remnants of the shape.

Interior finally got away from the "mulva" vents/ center console that is just hideous and in practically all new cars.

Re: 2018 Toyota Camry - Redesigned [Re: Nick1994] #4298198
01/09/17 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Honestly, I have never liked the looks of any of the Camrys from 1982-2017. But the new 2018 is quite a bit better looking IMO. It's definitely not drop dead gorgeous but I think it's now reasonable enough looking to buy.


Nick, would you be buying a new 2018 or wait til it gets 16 years old and 200K? crazy

Lexus or bumper car grill, Impala rear wheel well treatment, and those weird Prius taillight things...but the fastback look is nice.


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Re: 2018 Toyota Camry - Redesigned [Re: Astro14] #4298211
01/09/17 10:33 PM
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out there
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Originally Posted By: Astro14
Reminds me of a Cylon....


no joke, you beat me to it!! I think i posted something a while back about the wide mouth grills looking like a Cylon Centurion!


I like the side view and the rear , but not the front.

Now if the bluetooth phone had a cylon voice , that might work out to being cool, otherwise no.





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Re: 2018 Toyota Camry - Redesigned [Re: Nick1994] #4298217
01/09/17 10:42 PM
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Have driven a couple of 2003 Toyotas of late (Corolla and LandCruiser-Prado). I find them "hard" to drive because of how easy they are to drive, if that makes sense. Still, the litte 'rolla is quicker than my old battleship.

Another thing I dislike about modern vehicles is the cavernous dashboard. All that collects huge amounts of heat when parked in the sun, great in the winter, but dreadful in summer. Particularly dreadful in summer when coupled to an A/C system relying on a pathetic little electric fan to do the dirty work and using fresh air. I'll take vehicle using an engine-driven fan + electric pusher fan (for A/C boost) anyday. Performance is far superior.
Even the '03 'rolla struggles at idle in tropical heat/high humidity with fresh air. It'll freeze the [censored] outta you, provided you're moving and using recirc.


'93 BMW 320i 217,000km - Valvoline Engine-Armour 15w40, Mann Filter.
Re: 2018 Toyota Camry - Redesigned [Re: Nick1994] #4298229
01/09/17 11:04 PM
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The expensive LED headlamps have replaceable lenses held on by a gel adhesive, instead of permanent glue. The modders/aftermarket will like this, you will pop off a lens and install a new one, will not have to replace the entire assembly.

Also this is not a "refresh" but a FULL NEW REDESIGN.... and it's about time!

The 2.5L engine is all-new, employing several of Toyota's most advanced ICE technologies, and achieving 40% thermal efficiency.

The Hybrid is sporting fuel economy near the likes of the Prius! But will the CVT have [censored] fake shift points? From what I read is that the "sport" mode has the [censored] shift points, nothing is said about other modes.

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Re: 2018 Toyota Camry - Redesigned [Re: AZjeff] #4298268
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Originally Posted By: AZjeff
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Honestly, I have never liked the looks of any of the Camrys from 1982-2017. But the new 2018 is quite a bit better looking IMO. It's definitely not drop dead gorgeous but I think it's now reasonable enough looking to buy.


Nick, would you be buying a new 2018 or wait til it gets 16 years old and 200K? crazy

Lexus or bumper car grill, Impala rear wheel well treatment, and those weird Prius taillight things...but the fastback look is nice.


As a 22 year old college student, I do not want a new car. That would be the stupidest thing financially.


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Re: 2018 Toyota Camry - Redesigned [Re: Nick1994] #4298275
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All the cars look the same the these days.


2015 F150 2.7
2018 F350 6.2
Re: 2018 Toyota Camry - Redesigned [Re: Nick1994] #4298341
01/10/17 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: AZjeff
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Honestly, I have never liked the looks of any of the Camrys from 1982-2017. But the new 2018 is quite a bit better looking IMO. It's definitely not drop dead gorgeous but I think it's now reasonable enough looking to buy.


Nick, would you be buying a new 2018 or wait til it gets 16 years old and 200K? crazy

Lexus or bumper car grill, Impala rear wheel well treatment, and those weird Prius taillight things...but the fastback look is nice.


As a 22 year old college student, I do not want a new car. That would be the stupidest thing financially.


Yanking your chain. New cars aren't the smartest financial move at any age but we buy them anyhow. The cost of Az yearly registration is one reason.


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Re: 2018 Toyota Camry - Redesigned [Re: AZjeff] #4298355
01/10/17 07:44 AM
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I like it. It looks like it has taken styling cues from the Mazda 6.

Re: 2018 Toyota Camry - Redesigned [Re: B320i] #4298370
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I suppose it's better than what is currently be sold; but that's not saying much.

Too aggressive looking for a Camry. It's trying to be something it's not.

I'm sure it will sell well, but can't say I'm interested.

Originally Posted By: B320i
Have driven a couple of 2003 Toyotas of late (Corolla and LandCruiser-Prado). I find them "hard" to drive because of how easy they are to drive, if that makes sense. Still, the litte 'rolla is quicker than my old battleship.


Yes, I think I know what you mean. I call it brain dead steering; someplace else (TTAC?) I think put their finger on it better: there is no on-center dead spot in the steering. Any pressure on the wheel will move it. It's not "set and forget" steering (see Mirage) but close enough: steering is too light. All three of my non-electric PS Toyota's have dead steering. Which is fine, in a parking lot, horrible once moving though.


2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 187k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 152k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 208k, his
Re: 2018 Toyota Camry - Redesigned [Re: Nick1994] #4298372
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I'll judge it when I see it in the wild.


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2006 Mazda 3 2.0L - 171k miles
Re: 2018 Toyota Camry - Redesigned [Re: Nick1994] #4298412
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Looks good. I always thought the Cylons looked cool.

Last edited by wemay; 01/10/17 09:12 AM.

2018 KIA Sportage LX 2.4 AWD:
Now: QSAD 5W-20, PH9688
Next: ST Syn 5W-30, ST9688

2013 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T:
Now: STP HM 5W-30, S2808XL
Next: ST Syn 5W-30, ST9688
Re: 2018 Toyota Camry - Redesigned [Re: Nick1994] #4298521
01/10/17 11:33 AM
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I found an article where it states that the 2.5 is all new. Specs are posted as well, saying that it will produce 202 HP and 184 Ft.Lbs. The CR is listed at 13:1.

If this combo of the 2.5 and the 8-speed does not impress, I'm not sure what will.


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Re: 2018 Toyota Camry - Redesigned [Re: Nick1994] #4298558
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Definitely looks better, and the fact that it doesn't have a CVT is good.


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Re: 2018 Toyota Camry - Redesigned [Re: SumpChump] #4298656
01/10/17 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: SumpChump
Look Mom! Toyota make a Maxima now! Gee whiz!

Gag a maggot. I wonder if it will offer the same great U760E tranny with the poorly design torque converter that shudders like rumble strips when combine with the low gear seeking firmware. And gotta love that ATF fluid level check procedure requiring a vacuum holding device with a special temp adjustable probe.



keep beating that drum.

(nobody cares)

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