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Pennzoil Euro L 5W-30? #4280785
12/21/16 12:32 AM
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What else can this realistically be used in? It looks like VW Diesel only, but if you use the Lubrizo tool to compare the oil specs, it looks like an insanely robust oil, overall. Any thoughts? It's on clearance at Autozone now and I snagged a few dozen quarts, so I may as well figure out what its safe to use in - because god knows I'll never own any VW junk lol.


2002 Chevy Silverado 3500 8.1l
1995 BMW 328ti
1997 Chevy C2500 5.7l V8
2003 BMW 530i (deceased :()
1998 Mercedes E300 Turbogreasel
2002 Subaru Outback Sport

Re: Pennzoil Euro L 5W-30? [Re: KenO] #4280792
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Low SAPs and VOA shows a ton of Boron.

It has an unusual overall add pack. Some of the other low SAPS oils like M1 would run 400-700 ppm of Magnesium. This one runs with Boron at 500 ppm to make up for the missing Calcium. Other than VW diesels (or similar) not sure where I'd use it either. Might be ok for my 4.6L which currently gets PP 5w-30.

I'd submit for the $2/qt rebates....up to 24 qt limit for 2016. You'll end paying no more than 10c-15c per quart in the end.



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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
1969 Ply GTX/RRs
Re: Pennzoil Euro L 5W-30? [Re: KenO] #4280793
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I saw this at AZ and started grabbing it but stopped when I didn't see any API seal (not that that makes it a bad oil) and instead went for the Euro AV version.


2004 Mercury Mountaineer 4.6 M1 High Mileage 10w-40 (Summer)
2001 Ford Focus 2.0 Zetec Pennzoil Euro L 5w-30
Re: Pennzoil Euro L 5W-30? [Re: KenO] #4280826
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Anything modern diesel, MB, BMW, FCA, Dexos II.


15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 5W30 EP+OEM filter).
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W40+MANN filter)
Re: Pennzoil Euro L 5W-30? [Re: Ifixyawata] #4280846
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Originally Posted By: Ifixyawata
I saw this at AZ and started grabbing it but stopped when I didn't see any API seal (not that that makes it a bad oil) and instead went for the Euro AV version.
PP Euro L correct? The bottles I have have API service SN in the donut on the back.


'95 Chevy 1/2t 305 208k -NexGen Maxlife 5w-30, Wix filter
'89 Jeep Comanche 4.0 5spd 285k - GC 0w-30, Bosch LongLife filter
Re: Pennzoil Euro L 5W-30? [Re: umungus1122] #4280853
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Originally Posted By: umungus1122
PP Euro L correct? The bottles I have have API service SN in the donut on the back.


That must be it. My AZ had two 'platinum-looking' Pennzoil varieties of 5w-30 that were both 'Euro'. I'm pretty positive that the L variety didn't show any API donut whereas the AV version did. May have been a different iteration of the L variety?


2004 Mercury Mountaineer 4.6 M1 High Mileage 10w-40 (Summer)
2001 Ford Focus 2.0 Zetec Pennzoil Euro L 5w-30
Re: Pennzoil Euro L 5W-30? [Re: KenO] #4280875
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Looks like they 2 styles floating around. A charcoal colored quart and a light silver colored quart. Some say API SN and some don't I guess. Their site says API SN though.

It carries the vw504 approval too.. so for a 502 spec'ing oil consuming Audi that is out of warranty, I think it'll be just fine.

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03 Jeep WJ 4.0 202k Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 186k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 153k Synpower 5w30 Supertech ST3980 (Ecore)

Re: Pennzoil Euro L 5W-30? [Re: KenO] #4280987
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Originally Posted By: KenO
What else can this realistically be used in? It looks like VW Diesel only, but if you use the Lubrizo tool to compare the oil specs, it looks like an insanely robust oil, overall. Any thoughts? It's on clearance at Autozone now and I snagged a few dozen quarts, so I may as well figure out what its safe to use in - because god knows I'll never own any VW junk lol.


The bottles I saw at AZ were marked SN and were in dark gray containers (like the original PU).
I believe this is the PDS:
http://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/products/f...c_Motor_Oil.pdf

I would use that oil in any and all the cars in your signature that spec 5w30.


'Journalism is Dead'
Re: Pennzoil Euro L 5W-30? [Re: pbm] #4281023
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Originally Posted By: pbm
Originally Posted By: KenO
What else can this realistically be used in? It looks like VW Diesel only, but if you use the Lubrizo tool to compare the oil specs, it looks like an insanely robust oil, overall. Any thoughts? It's on clearance at Autozone now and I snagged a few dozen quarts, so I may as well figure out what its safe to use in - because god knows I'll never own any VW junk lol.


The bottles I saw at AZ were marked SN and were in dark gray containers (like the original PU).
I believe this is the PDS:
http://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/products/f...c_Motor_Oil.pdf

I would use that oil in any and all the cars in your signature that spec 5w30.



Nope, this ones a specifically VW version apparently.


2002 Chevy Silverado 3500 8.1l
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2003 BMW 530i (deceased :()
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Re: Pennzoil Euro L 5W-30? [Re: KenO] #4281032
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L and LX gets confusing. I thought the OP left off the "X". Here's the VOA for the L - low saps - no big boron punch like the 0w-30 LX.

VOA for 5w-30 Euro L


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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
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Originally Posted By: pbm
Originally Posted By: KenO
What else can this realistically be used in? It looks like VW Diesel only, but if you use the Lubrizo tool to compare the oil specs, it looks like an insanely robust oil, overall. Any thoughts? It's on clearance at Autozone now and I snagged a few dozen quarts, so I may as well figure out what its safe to use in - because god knows I'll never own any VW junk lol.


The bottles I saw at AZ were marked SN and were in dark gray containers (like the original PU).
I believe this is the PDS:
http://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/products/f...c_Motor_Oil.pdf

I would use that oil in any and all the cars in your signature that spec 5w30.


CORRECTION:
After rechecking the containers....they DO NOT show SN on them....the SN was in the PDS.....sorry for the misinformation.

The containers do say:
"Suitable for fuel injected gasoline and diesel engines fitted with 'blow by' recirculation and catalytic converters operating in extreme driving conditions"

ALSO

"Meets or exceeds the requirements of the following industry specifications: ACEA A3/B3/B4, ACEA C2 &C3, BMW LL-04, MB approval 229.51, VW 504 00/ 507 00, Chrysler MS-11106.

Again, sorry for the earlier misinformation.


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Re: Pennzoil Euro L 5W-30? [Re: KenO] #4281515
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I just picked up a bottle to read. Light grey bottle. Says Euro AV, not L. I was wrong on that.

API SN
ACEA C3
VW 502.00/505.00/505.01


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Re: Pennzoil Euro L 5W-30? [Re: KenO] #4281856
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Interestingly enough, the Euro AV carries the above VW approvals, but does not look to be an A3/ B4?

Anyone have any info on vw502 and vw504? I thought I read a while back that 504 simply replaced 502?


03 Jeep WJ 4.0 202k Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 186k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 153k Synpower 5w30 Supertech ST3980 (Ecore)

Re: Pennzoil Euro L 5W-30? [Re: KenO] #4282669
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There were 2 varieties floating around my local AZ, EV and L. I was assuming these were a big no for gassers since they were both labeled diesel but is one or both usable in a beater? Is it an issue if it's a oil burner?

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Originally Posted By: 99Saturn
There were 2 varieties floating around my local AZ, EV and L. I was assuming these were a big no for gassers since they were both labeled diesel but is one or both usable in a beater? Is it an issue if it's a oil burner?


they will work fine in your oil burner, absolutely nothing wrong with using them in a gas engine smile

Isn't "oil burner" also used as a slang term for diesel cars too? crzy

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