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STP Engine Treatment #4278479
12/18/16 05:24 PM
12/18/16 05:24 PM
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Georgia
Familyman Offline OP
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Georgia
My minivan withn110k on it has been a little louder than usual. Ticking and tapping when warmed up and at idle. Its quiet any other time. Not sure sure exactly what is causing the racket but i have searched and found that there a quite a few of these engine's that tap and tick like mine (3.5l toyota) anyway....i have been using maxlife 5w20 and on a whim i added a bottle of the blue stp to thicken it up. I am pleasently surprised at how it lessened the noise. What im wondering is about what viscosity am i running with 6qts 5w20 plus 1 bottle (small bottle...guessing a pint ??). On my next oci i want to get the same weight oil so as to not run the addative. Thanks for any info. If you have any other insight on the best oil for a noisy toyota feel free to let me know.

Re: STP Engine Treatment [Re: Familyman] #4278488
12/18/16 05:34 PM
12/18/16 05:34 PM
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Northern Kentucky
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It will bring it up to a 10w30. Stp has a viscosity of about 200 cSt @ 100c. Fairly thick especially at 40C which is 2875 cSt. Thankfully the bottle is usually only 15 oz, as even double that would make the mix really thick.

Maxlife 10w30 should do the trick


2012 Chevy Cruze LT 1.4T - 50k
2002 Buick Century 130k - Built 4T65e(Maxlife) - Edge 0w40 + Fram XG3980
Re: STP Engine Treatment [Re: 901Memphis] #4278497
12/18/16 05:40 PM
12/18/16 05:40 PM
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wv
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wv
If it were mine i would try the marvel mystery oil instead of the STP for ticking..it has helped some on here including me. Probably some gum or varnish on one of the lifters that needs a little cleaning. Try a fresh oil change with a pint of MMO along with a quality filter then see how that works for you.

Re: STP Engine Treatment [Re: Familyman] #4278501
12/18/16 05:41 PM
12/18/16 05:41 PM
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If your going to add something like that try Liquimoly Motor Oil Saver.


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Re: STP Engine Treatment [Re: Familyman] #4278562
12/18/16 06:54 PM
12/18/16 06:54 PM
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Dallas, Texas
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Dallas, Texas
+1 no STP
There are many stories about guys who work in the oil fields. If the mechanics found out that you added anything but oil to their trucks you'd get disciplined. If you added STP you were fired on the spot.

Use lubro moly oil saver or Schaffers Oil Treatment 321.

Re: STP Engine Treatment [Re: Familyman] #4278563
12/18/16 06:54 PM
12/18/16 06:54 PM
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Mahzurrah!
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Mahzurrah!
The old STP is considered worthless around here, but I used it a lot as a kid and have fiddled with it a few times recently and still find it useful for thickening oil in a pinch and yes it can have positive effect on some noises.

As for your actual question, a bottle of STP in a normal crankcase is going to jump your oil up one grade, so yes it's now a 30 grade as already stated. That does not mean using any old 30 grade is going to create the same result however, but it might.


09 Lincoln MKZ AWD 97k - M1 AFE 0w30
12 KIA Sedona 91k - PP HM 10w30
09 Ford Focus 131k - Supertech FS HM 5w30
00 Chev Lumina 201k - Supertech FS HM 5w30
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Re: STP Engine Treatment [Re: Familyman] #4278594
12/18/16 07:26 PM
12/18/16 07:26 PM
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Upstate NY
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STP does not have a great reputation. I would not suggest MMO either. So Keen or Auto-Rx or synthetic oil (NAPA). At your mileage I would not suggest changing grades from the owners manual. Better to clean the engine and lifters.


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2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)
Re: STP Engine Treatment [Re: SuperDave456] #4278601
12/18/16 07:35 PM
12/18/16 07:35 PM
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NY
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Originally Posted By: SuperDave456
+1 no STP
There are many stories about guys who work in the oil fields. If the mechanics found out that you added anything but oil to their trucks you'd get disciplined. If you added STP you were fired on the spot.

Use lubro moly oil saver or Schaffers Oil Treatment 321.


FTR it's Schaeffers #132. wink It's a very good product. Having said that, there are some additives and cleaning products that need to be heated to pour when the weather is cold. They would be the last thing I'd want to add to my engine oil in the winter months.


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Re: STP Engine Treatment [Re: Donald] #4278619
12/18/16 07:49 PM
12/18/16 07:49 PM
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Georgia
Familyman Offline OP
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Georgia
Yeah.....didnt really want to do the stp but just wanted to test out if thicker would help with noise. I voted for the 3$ stp over a complete oil change at the time since my maxlife had only 1200 miles on it. At 5K Ill try 10w30. Thanks

Re: STP Engine Treatment [Re: Familyman] #4278663
12/18/16 09:00 PM
12/18/16 09:00 PM
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Indiana
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Indiana
Originally Posted By: Familyman
Yeah.....didnt really want to do the stp but just wanted to test out if thicker would help with noise. I voted for the 3$ stp over a complete oil change at the time since my maxlife had only 1200 miles on it. At 5K Ill try 10w30. Thanks


You don't have to go thicker to help with noise, maybe give Lubegard engine treatment a try? It is not thick at all. It is like thin motor oil, very fluid. Our SUV had a tapping/knocking noise when it was cold. I tried Lubegard, I was surprised it worked so well, took away the noise. Lubegard even mentions it in their description on their website, "•Eliminates lifter and other objectionable noise on startup, especially in cold weather".

http://lubegard.com/~/C-180/LUBEGARD+BIO-TECH+Engine+Oil+Protectant

Last edited by njohnson; 12/18/16 09:05 PM.
Re: STP Engine Treatment [Re: njohnson] #4278722
12/18/16 09:54 PM
12/18/16 09:54 PM
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NY
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NY
Originally Posted By: njohnson
Originally Posted By: Familyman
Yeah.....didnt really want to do the stp but just wanted to test out if thicker would help with noise. I voted for the 3$ stp over a complete oil change at the time since my maxlife had only 1200 miles on it. At 5K Ill try 10w30. Thanks


You don't have to go thicker to help with noise, maybe give Lubegard engine treatment a try? It is not thick at all. It is like thin motor oil, very fluid. Our SUV had a tapping/knocking noise when it was cold. I tried Lubegard, I was surprised it worked so well, took away the noise. Lubegard even mentions it in their description on their website, "•Eliminates lifter and other objectionable noise on startup, especially in cold weather".

http://lubegard.com/~/C-180/LUBEGARD+BIO-TECH+Engine+Oil+Protectant


Biotech Engine Protectant has a pretty good following here, with many satisfied users. It might be worth a shot.


God Bless Our Troops

Re: STP Engine Treatment [Re: Familyman] #4278796
12/19/16 12:02 AM
12/19/16 12:02 AM
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Posts: 9,332
1/2 hr N.E. of Detroit
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1/2 hr N.E. of Detroit
I use either Rislone or Marvel Mystery Oil in the crankcase. But never with thin 5W-20W oil.


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Re: STP Engine Treatment [Re: demarpaint] #4278950
12/19/16 09:01 AM
12/19/16 09:01 AM
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Posts: 14
Georgia
Familyman Offline OP
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Georgia
I like lubegards trans additives so I may go with their oil additive. Actually didnt even know they had something for oil. I appreciate all the knowlege and advice on this board.

Re: STP Engine Treatment [Re: Familyman] #4278992
12/19/16 10:01 AM
12/19/16 10:01 AM
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Georgia
Familyman Offline OP
Familyman  Offline OP
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Georgia
I went to lubegards site and saw two products for engine oil...the bio and a heavy duty. It was vague as to the difference between the two. Is there a reason to choose one over the other?

Re: STP Engine Treatment [Re: Familyman] #4279026
12/19/16 10:32 AM
12/19/16 10:32 AM
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Buffalo, NY
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Buffalo, NY
I would move to a 5W-30 HM oil and never think of ever using STP again unless you're burning lots of oil after a change...

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