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Re: Dealer rant [Re: Bud] #4265591 12/04/16 10:50 AM
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Unless it's warranty work, I avoid the dealer at all costs.



But, but, but, but, they're ASE certified, which means they passed a test and washed cars, or changed oil for two years. hide


I do the same as you, I avoid them like the plague.


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Re: Dealer rant [Re: funflyer] #4265607 12/04/16 11:12 AM
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Just depends - I steer wide of big city dealers (buy from them only) - but our small town GM dealer has had the same techs for many years - and a service manager from that same concrete floor - and if it is technically up there in scope... OK
After my near miss - tire rotation is done by me or one of two places I can still watch them work ...

Re: Dealer rant [Re: Doog] #4265660 12/04/16 12:07 PM
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Toyota dealer rotated tires 3,500 miles ago. I'll check if they are tight.

Re: Dealer rant [Re: Doog] #4266080 12/04/16 06:49 PM
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What's a 2 piece lugnut?

Re: Dealer rant [Re: zzyzzx] #4266085 12/04/16 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: zzyzzx
What's a 2 piece lugnut?


Generally, a nut that has a chrome "sleeve" over top of it making it actually two pieces.


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Re: Dealer rant [Re: eljefino] #4266478 12/05/16 07:29 AM
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Your torque wrench may not be accurate to 10 ft-lbs (it's ft-lbs, not ft/lbs.)

Did you actually check at 10 ft-lbs and note movement or are you guessing, because you got movement when you checked at normal torque spec? If the latter, how much movement did you note?


Did you read the post before responding to it?


I'm confused; did I miss something? He said he took his torque wrench and found three loose. My question was, in other words:

1. Did OP check with his torque wrench set at normal spec (e.g., something like 85 ft-lbs) and, as he checked them tight, noticed three of them actually rotated excessively before reaching the final torque value?; OR

2. Did OP check with his torque wrench set initially to a low torque value, <= 10 ft-lbs, and noticed that three weren't even at this torque value, because they rotated?



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3....count em THREE loose lug nuts mad mad mad They didn't have 10 ft/lbs on them. mad


Plot twist, maybe he used a beam wrench, not a clicker! wink


Right, he could have noted movement before the beam indicated 10 ft-lbs. Even if below the cal curve of the wrench, movement below 10 most likely indicates loose.


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Re: Dealer rant [Re: Doog] #4266493 12/05/16 07:56 AM
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Guys, check your nuts! And don't be shy to get a second pair of eyes and hands on them grin2


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Re: Dealer rant [Re: dlundblad] #4266620 12/05/16 10:32 AM
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Rather than a childish rant about it on a discussion forum, why not call the service department and discuss it with them first?


Enlighten all of BITOG on how OP's rant was CHILDISH.

If you notice, some folks actually gave advice and as others said, it can be a lesson learned for the safety of others. Say an old couple or busy single mom or a not so mechanically inclined individual went in for the same service, but didn't know to check the torque because they rightfully assumed all was well.

Before spewing whatever ignorant thought comes to your head, perhaps you should simply think first?


You dont speak for me sir, I also think it is childish and bad form, but then again 1/3 of most posts in the off topic forum fit this definition.

Re: Dealer rant [Re: Doog] #4266822 12/05/16 01:10 PM
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Wise of you to check. Many don't, hop in the car with family for a trip, then get stuck on the side of the road, plans all shot to h$ll.

Don't forget the spare....


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Re: Dealer rant [Re: Doog] #4266829 12/05/16 01:18 PM
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I took my car to a Valvoline for a state inspection and was amazed to see that the kid working there used a torque wrench to install my tire after checking the brakes. I wanted to give him a tip for that.


Re: Dealer rant [Re: OVERKILL] #4266835 12/05/16 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
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What's a 2 piece lugnut?


Generally, a nut that has a chrome "sleeve" over top of it making it actually two pieces.


yeah, I have those too. Never had a car with them before.

Cant say I'm a fan.


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Re: Dealer rant [Re: OVERKILL] #4266839 12/05/16 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
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What's a 2 piece lugnut?


Generally, a nut that has a chrome "sleeve" over top of it making it actually two pieces.


My Trofeo had these and the chrome sleeves eventually all fell off :p


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Re: Dealer rant [Re: Bud] #4266862 12/05/16 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: Bud
Unless it's warranty work, I avoid the dealer at all costs.

+1

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Originally Posted By: zzyzzx
What's a 2 piece lugnut?


Generally, a nut that has a chrome "sleeve" over top of it making it actually two pieces.


yeah, I have those too. Never had a car with them before.

Cant say I'm a fan.


I also have them. The OEM ones are fine, but the cheap replacements suck and the chrome piece falls off eventually.


Re: Dealer rant [Re: gathermewool] #4267090 12/05/16 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: gathermewool
Your torque wrench may not be accurate to 10 ft-lbs (it's ft-lbs, not ft/lbs.)

Did you actually check at 10 ft-lbs and note movement or are you guessing, because you got movement when you checked at normal torque spec? If the latter, how much movement did you note?


One nut took 1.5 turns, the other took about 1/5.

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