What synthetic 5w-30 has the lowest NOACK ?
I'd consider a synthetic 0w-30 and 0w-40 as well
I'd consider a synthetic 0w-30 and 0w-40 as well
Lowest NOACK 5w-30 synthetic ?
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Do a search of the major 5w30 oil and let us know what you find. I really don't have time to do your search today. 
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)Originally Posted By: Eddie
Do a search of the major 5w30 oil and let us know what you find. I really don't have time to do your search today.)
Done it , not much with specific MSDS info or independent tests comes up with NOACK searches
THANKS for the help
Do a search of the major 5w30 oil and let us know what you find. I really don't have time to do your search today.
)Done it , not much with specific MSDS info or independent tests comes up with NOACK searches
THANKS for the help
Amsoil testing showed Redline HP to be under 5.5%.
http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g3115.pdf
It's interesting that Amsoil also claimed that same Redline oil failed the TEOST deposit test!
The Russian Oil Club has M1 5W30 ESP at 5.6% NOACK loss...
http://www.oil-club.ru/forum/topic/6709-6709/
The ROC also has a page for Redline 5W30 and measured its NOACK loss as 5.3%.
These are the best results I've seen for 5W30.
BTW, here's the master list of Russian Oil Club VOAs...I know it's a strange source, but the information has basically correlated with other analyses when I have found other VOAs for oils they have looked at.
http://www.oil-club.ru/forum/topic/7906-idealnye-masla-po-vashemu-mneniyu/
http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g3115.pdf
It's interesting that Amsoil also claimed that same Redline oil failed the TEOST deposit test!
The Russian Oil Club has M1 5W30 ESP at 5.6% NOACK loss...
http://www.oil-club.ru/forum/topic/6709-6709/
The ROC also has a page for Redline 5W30 and measured its NOACK loss as 5.3%.
These are the best results I've seen for 5W30.
BTW, here's the master list of Russian Oil Club VOAs...I know it's a strange source, but the information has basically correlated with other analyses when I have found other VOAs for oils they have looked at.
http://www.oil-club.ru/forum/topic/7906-idealnye-masla-po-vashemu-mneniyu/
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Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Amsoil testing showed Redline HP to be under 5.5%.
http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g3115.pdf
It's interesting that Amsoil also claimed that same Redline oil failed the TEOST test!
The Russian Oil Club has M1 5W30 ESP at 5.6% NOACK loss...
http://www.oil-club.ru/forum/topic/6709-6709/
The ROC also has a page for Redline 5W30 and measured its NOACK loss as 5.3%.
These are the best results I've seen for 5W30.
Redline does seem to be at the top of the list.
I can't seem to find much specific info, for Mobil 1 , PP or the elusive Ultra.
I was hoping to try Royal Purple since it's HQ is local and easily available but no NOACK info. on their MSDS.
Mobil 1 0w-40 Euro is on my list (NOACK around 8-9% if I remember)
Castrol Edge 0w-40 is hard to find locally
I'm intrigued by this 0w-30 Belgian Castrol but it's an SL , too much phos or zinc then ???
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...l_Edge_0w-30_A3
I'll probably $pring for the Redline since the HTHS is very good too.
Thanks
Amsoil testing showed Redline HP to be under 5.5%.
http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g3115.pdf
It's interesting that Amsoil also claimed that same Redline oil failed the TEOST test!
The Russian Oil Club has M1 5W30 ESP at 5.6% NOACK loss...
http://www.oil-club.ru/forum/topic/6709-6709/
The ROC also has a page for Redline 5W30 and measured its NOACK loss as 5.3%.
These are the best results I've seen for 5W30.
Redline does seem to be at the top of the list.
I can't seem to find much specific info, for Mobil 1 , PP or the elusive Ultra.
I was hoping to try Royal Purple since it's HQ is local and easily available but no NOACK info. on their MSDS.
Mobil 1 0w-40 Euro is on my list (NOACK around 8-9% if I remember)
Castrol Edge 0w-40 is hard to find locally
I'm intrigued by this 0w-30 Belgian Castrol but it's an SL , too much phos or zinc then ???
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...l_Edge_0w-30_A3
I'll probably $pring for the Redline since the HTHS is very good too.
Thanks
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If it's SN then max Noack is 15%
if it's Dexos1 max Noack is 13%
if it's A3/B4 and MB 229.5 then max Noack is 10%
The Belgian Castrol Edge 0W30 (A3/B4, SL, MB 229.5, BMW LL-01) in the other thread has a spec sheet and it lists the Noack at 8.3%
It also has a HTHS of 3.5 cP, when a typical ILSAC 30 grade would have a HTHS of 3.0 +/- 0.1
If it never drops below 0F (-20C) for you, then consider a synthetic 10W30, they often have a Noack in the 6 to 8 % range.
if it's Dexos1 max Noack is 13%
if it's A3/B4 and MB 229.5 then max Noack is 10%
The Belgian Castrol Edge 0W30 (A3/B4, SL, MB 229.5, BMW LL-01) in the other thread has a spec sheet and it lists the Noack at 8.3%
It also has a HTHS of 3.5 cP, when a typical ILSAC 30 grade would have a HTHS of 3.0 +/- 0.1
If it never drops below 0F (-20C) for you, then consider a synthetic 10W30, they often have a Noack in the 6 to 8 % range.
Originally Posted By: car51
http://content.valvoline.com/pdf/valvoline_full_synthetic_with_maxlife_technology.pdf
WoW , that 10w-30 looks great
I'll put that on my local search list !!
Thx
http://content.valvoline.com/pdf/valvoline_full_synthetic_with_maxlife_technology.pdf
WoW , that 10w-30 looks great
I'll put that on my local search list !!
Thx
Originally Posted By: SR5
If it's SN then max Noack is 15%
if it's Dexos1 max Noack is 13%
if it's A3/B4 and MB 229.5 then max Noack is 10%
The Belgian Castrol Edge 0W30 (A3/B4, SL, MB 229.5, BMW LL-01) in the other thread has a spec sheet and it lists the Noack at 8.3%
It also has a HTHS of 3.5 cP, when a typical ILSAC 30 grade would have a HTHS of 3.0 +/- 0.1
If it never drops below 0F (-20C) for you, then consider a synthetic 10W30, they often have a Noack in the 6 to 8 % range.
yeah , I think 9 months out of the year a 10w-30 would be fine for what I need
If it's SN then max Noack is 15%
if it's Dexos1 max Noack is 13%
if it's A3/B4 and MB 229.5 then max Noack is 10%
The Belgian Castrol Edge 0W30 (A3/B4, SL, MB 229.5, BMW LL-01) in the other thread has a spec sheet and it lists the Noack at 8.3%
It also has a HTHS of 3.5 cP, when a typical ILSAC 30 grade would have a HTHS of 3.0 +/- 0.1
If it never drops below 0F (-20C) for you, then consider a synthetic 10W30, they often have a Noack in the 6 to 8 % range.
yeah , I think 9 months out of the year a 10w-30 would be fine for what I need
Originally Posted By: cnatra
Redline does seem to be at the top of the list.
I can't seem to find much specific info, for Mobil 1 , PP or the elusive Ultra.
I was hoping to try Royal Purple since it's local and easily available but no info. on their MSDS.
Mobil 1 0w-40 Euro is on my list (NOACK around 8-9% if I remember)
Castrol Edge 0w-40 is hard to find locally
I'm intrigued by this 0w-30 Belgian Castrol but it's an SL , too much phos or zinc then ???
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...l_Edge_0w-30_A3
I'll probably $pring for the Redline since the HTHS is very good too.
Thanks
The PQIA has M1 at about 10% in their 2013 roundup of 5W30 synths.
http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/Marchsyntheticsallfinal.html
The "star" of this list as far as NOACK is concerned, Pennzoil Ultra, has since been discontinued...Platinum and Ultra Platinum 5W30 do not have quite such impressive results, although they are still very good.
Our buddies at the ROC have M1 5W30 EP at 9%.
http://www.oil-club.ru/forum/topic/8445-mobil1-extended-performance-5w-30-svezhee/
I have just switched from M1 5W30 to EP for the winter and ESP for the summer. They are all low in calcium to alleviate my LSPI concerns and the standard M1 and EP both have low CCS viscosities at -30C (I ski a lot and will have my car parked outside on some very cold nights in the White Mountains). ESP is a thicker at cold so I don't like it as a winter fill, but I have 12 liters of it sitting around now for warm weather use.
And, you are welcome, sir!!
Redline does seem to be at the top of the list.
I can't seem to find much specific info, for Mobil 1 , PP or the elusive Ultra.
I was hoping to try Royal Purple since it's local and easily available but no info. on their MSDS.
Mobil 1 0w-40 Euro is on my list (NOACK around 8-9% if I remember)
Castrol Edge 0w-40 is hard to find locally
I'm intrigued by this 0w-30 Belgian Castrol but it's an SL , too much phos or zinc then ???
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...l_Edge_0w-30_A3
I'll probably $pring for the Redline since the HTHS is very good too.
Thanks
The PQIA has M1 at about 10% in their 2013 roundup of 5W30 synths.
http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/Marchsyntheticsallfinal.html
The "star" of this list as far as NOACK is concerned, Pennzoil Ultra, has since been discontinued...Platinum and Ultra Platinum 5W30 do not have quite such impressive results, although they are still very good.
Our buddies at the ROC have M1 5W30 EP at 9%.
http://www.oil-club.ru/forum/topic/8445-mobil1-extended-performance-5w-30-svezhee/
I have just switched from M1 5W30 to EP for the winter and ESP for the summer. They are all low in calcium to alleviate my LSPI concerns and the standard M1 and EP both have low CCS viscosities at -30C (I ski a lot and will have my car parked outside on some very cold nights in the White Mountains). ESP is a thicker at cold so I don't like it as a winter fill, but I have 12 liters of it sitting around now for warm weather use.
And, you are welcome, sir!!
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Originally Posted By: cnatra
yeah , I think 9 months out of the year a 10w-30 would be fine for what I need
Do you head further North in the winter, maybe to ski or snowboard?
I would think that 10WXX would fit your needs year round in Houston...
yeah , I think 9 months out of the year a 10w-30 would be fine for what I need
Do you head further North in the winter, maybe to ski or snowboard?
I would think that 10WXX would fit your needs year round in Houston...
What car?
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted By: cnatra
yeah , I think 9 months out of the year a 10w-30 would be fine for what I need
Do you head further North in the winter, maybe to ski or snowboard?
I would think that 10WXX would fit your needs year round in Houston...
nope , I like to head to Colorado around August to escape the Houston heat
Originally Posted By: cnatra
yeah , I think 9 months out of the year a 10w-30 would be fine for what I need
Do you head further North in the winter, maybe to ski or snowboard?
I would think that 10WXX would fit your needs year round in Houston...
nope , I like to head to Colorado around August to escape the Houston heat
Originally Posted By: Farmer
QSUD is 8.7% according to PQIA.
http://www.pqiadata.org/QuakerState5W30dexos.html
Thanks , I've seen that a Wal-Mart
QSUD is 8.7% according to PQIA.
http://www.pqiadata.org/QuakerState5W30dexos.html
Thanks , I've seen that a Wal-Mart
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted By: cnatra
Redline does seem to be at the top of the list.
I can't seem to find much specific info, for Mobil 1 , PP or the elusive Ultra.
I was hoping to try Royal Purple since it's local and easily available but no info. on their MSDS.
Mobil 1 0w-40 Euro is on my list (NOACK around 8-9% if I remember)
Castrol Edge 0w-40 is hard to find locally
I'm intrigued by this 0w-30 Belgian Castrol but it's an SL , too much phos or zinc then ???
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...l_Edge_0w-30_A3
I'll probably $pring for the Redline since the HTHS is very good too.
Thanks
The PQIA has M1 at about 10% in their 2013 roundup of 5W30 synths.
http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/Marchsyntheticsallfinal.html
The "star" of this list as far as NOACK is concerned, Pennzoil Ultra, has since been discontinued...Platinum and Ultra Platinum 5W30 do not have quite such impressive results, although they are still very good.
Our buddies at the ROC have M1 5W30 EP at 9%.
http://www.oil-club.ru/forum/topic/8445-mobil1-extended-performance-5w-30-svezhee/
I have just switched from M1 5W30 to EP for the winter and ESP for the summer. They are all low in calcium to alleviate my LSPI concerns and the standard M1 and EP both have low CCS viscosities at -30C (I ski a lot and will have my car parked outside on some very cold nights in the White Mountains). ESP is a thicker at cold so I don't like it as a winter fill, but I have 12 liters of it sitting around now for warm weather use.
And, you are welcome, sir!!
I've used a lot of M1 & M1 EP over the last 12yrs (currently in the wife's RX350) with good results.
What is the M1 "ESP" ??
Thx
Originally Posted By: cnatra
Redline does seem to be at the top of the list.
I can't seem to find much specific info, for Mobil 1 , PP or the elusive Ultra.
I was hoping to try Royal Purple since it's local and easily available but no info. on their MSDS.
Mobil 1 0w-40 Euro is on my list (NOACK around 8-9% if I remember)
Castrol Edge 0w-40 is hard to find locally
I'm intrigued by this 0w-30 Belgian Castrol but it's an SL , too much phos or zinc then ???
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...l_Edge_0w-30_A3
I'll probably $pring for the Redline since the HTHS is very good too.
Thanks
The PQIA has M1 at about 10% in their 2013 roundup of 5W30 synths.
http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/Marchsyntheticsallfinal.html
The "star" of this list as far as NOACK is concerned, Pennzoil Ultra, has since been discontinued...Platinum and Ultra Platinum 5W30 do not have quite such impressive results, although they are still very good.
Our buddies at the ROC have M1 5W30 EP at 9%.
http://www.oil-club.ru/forum/topic/8445-mobil1-extended-performance-5w-30-svezhee/
I have just switched from M1 5W30 to EP for the winter and ESP for the summer. They are all low in calcium to alleviate my LSPI concerns and the standard M1 and EP both have low CCS viscosities at -30C (I ski a lot and will have my car parked outside on some very cold nights in the White Mountains). ESP is a thicker at cold so I don't like it as a winter fill, but I have 12 liters of it sitting around now for warm weather use.
And, you are welcome, sir!!
I've used a lot of M1 & M1 EP over the last 12yrs (currently in the wife's RX350) with good results.
What is the M1 "ESP" ??
Thx
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Amsoil testing showed Redline HP to be under 5.5%.
The ROC also has a page for Redline 5W30 and measured its NOACK loss as 5.3%.
These are the best results I've seen for 5W30.
BTW, here's the master list of Russian Oil Club VOAs...I know it's a strange source, but the information has basically correlated with other analyses when I have found other VOAs for oils they have looked at.
http://www.oil-club.ru/forum/topic/7906-idealnye-masla-po-vashemu-mneniyu/
Thx ! interesting source of info
Amsoil testing showed Redline HP to be under 5.5%.
The ROC also has a page for Redline 5W30 and measured its NOACK loss as 5.3%.
These are the best results I've seen for 5W30.
BTW, here's the master list of Russian Oil Club VOAs...I know it's a strange source, but the information has basically correlated with other analyses when I have found other VOAs for oils they have looked at.
http://www.oil-club.ru/forum/topic/7906-idealnye-masla-po-vashemu-mneniyu/
Thx ! interesting source of info
While talking about 10w30 Amsoil signature series has always had very low NOACK on their 10w30 visc.
For 5w30 Red Line is quite good and I always liked it's viscosity and HTHS in that viscosity if you don't mind a boutique oil and the cost.
For 5w30 Red Line is quite good and I always liked it's viscosity and HTHS in that viscosity if you don't mind a boutique oil and the cost.
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted By: cnatra
I can't seem to find much specific info, for Mobil 1 , PP or the elusive Ultra
The PQIA has M1 at about 10% in their 2013 roundup of 5W30 synths.
http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/Marchsyntheticsallfinal.html
The "star" of this list as far as NOACK is concerned, Pennzoil Ultra, has since been discontinued...Platinum and Ultra Platinum 5W30 do not have quite such impressive results, although they are still very good.
And, you are welcome sir!!
It's a shame the old ULTRA is discontinued and the new Pennz Ultra Plat is extremely scarce around here. A couple auto parts stores will order it in about 3 different weights but no local inventory at any chain retailers.
Originally Posted By: cnatra
I can't seem to find much specific info, for Mobil 1 , PP or the elusive Ultra
The PQIA has M1 at about 10% in their 2013 roundup of 5W30 synths.
http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/Marchsyntheticsallfinal.html
The "star" of this list as far as NOACK is concerned, Pennzoil Ultra, has since been discontinued...Platinum and Ultra Platinum 5W30 do not have quite such impressive results, although they are still very good.
And, you are welcome sir!!
It's a shame the old ULTRA is discontinued and the new Pennz Ultra Plat is extremely scarce around here. A couple auto parts stores will order it in about 3 different weights but no local inventory at any chain retailers.
Originally Posted By: edyvw
What car?
the 3.5L DI tt ecoboost
I've been reading more that the Bosch DI system on these engines is better than most.
Hopefully less carbon deposits on intake vales and less fuel dilutuin but I guess thta's more a function of ring blow-by under boost.
I also plan on adding a "catch can" for the EGR system to keep dirty oil from coming back through the intake.
What car?
the 3.5L DI tt ecoboost
I've been reading more that the Bosch DI system on these engines is better than most.
Hopefully less carbon deposits on intake vales and less fuel dilutuin but I guess thta's more a function of ring blow-by under boost.
I also plan on adding a "catch can" for the EGR system to keep dirty oil from coming back through the intake.
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