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Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA #4227748
10/17/16 04:55 PM
10/17/16 04:55 PM
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The land of USA-made Subies!
SubieRubyRoo Offline OP
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Well... about a month late. Here is the VOA. $11.99 for 5 quarts at Rural King. Not by any means something to go ape about, but it looks solid for the price. I know, I know... I paid for 4 oil changes for a VOA with TBN... but sometimes you sacrifice for the community.

This went into my 2001 Subaru with 213k last week. Seems quieter than PPHM on startup so far.


Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #4227766
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Thanks for the VOA and it's a serviceable oil USA thumbsup approved


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #4227770
10/17/16 05:19 PM
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Looks pretty good for that low-priced syntheic oil.


03' Ford Focus SE(2.3L Duratec PZEV)/ 140K +
Pnz. Ultra 0w20 / Fram 'Ultra'/ OCI: 8000 +/-
ATF: Mercon V w/Lubegard Red

Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #4227788
10/17/16 05:45 PM
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Montreal, QC, Canada
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That's a good price but I find differences.

I have a strong Gold Plug drain plug and when I did a run of Shell CT Housebrand synthetic against full blown Pennzoil Ultra, there was 4-5x more metal particles on the plug with the housebranded oil.

But at this point in my car's life, the housebrand synthetics are more than good enough.


Falken - Draftsperson
2010 Honda Fit DX-A in Black
Current Fill: Formula 1 Synthetic 5W20 SN, Wix 57356 Oil Filter, ATF DW-1
Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #4227814
10/17/16 06:37 PM
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England
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Thanks for posting, as it's always good to see a new VOA.
The odd thing about this oil is that although it has a little Moly, it has no Boron and a low level of Zinc based FM, EP and AW additives. I presume the lack of Zinc is required for some type of DPF approval.
It also has GTX levels of detergents, so I would not use it to clean up a block or an extended OCI.
Additives cost more than a cheap HC synthetic base stock these days and some of the comments about TBN are a tad off, 7.6 is kind of low, 9 or 10 would be more reasonable.

Last edited by UltrafanUK; 10/17/16 06:44 PM.

Shell Ultra 0 or 5w40 or Liqui Moly 5w40 plus Ceratec every long OCI.
LM idle flush every 100K km.
Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #4227826
10/17/16 06:47 PM
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I don't get it. Maybe I'm missing something. I use cheap house brand conventional oil and it comes out of the engine with more additives still present than in this VOA. All 5 additives are higher in my used oil.

What makes this a good oil, the TBN?

Thank you for posting this analysis.

Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: WobblyElvis] #4227838
10/17/16 06:58 PM
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Not much, although it might well be cheaper than GTX 5w30!


Shell Ultra 0 or 5w40 or Liqui Moly 5w40 plus Ceratec every long OCI.
LM idle flush every 100K km.
Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: UltrafanUK] #4227856
10/17/16 07:13 PM
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Connecticut
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Very weak add pack. Almost looks like a low SAPS oil but I doubt it was intended as such. Low Ca, low Phos, low Zinc, low everything. I wouldn't count on this getting through an extended OCI like other major brands (Castrol, M1, PP, QSUD, Synpower, etc.). A serviceable oil....but maybe only for 3K-4K miles.


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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
1969 Ply GTX/RRs
Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #4227864
10/17/16 07:21 PM
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OH
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This oil has a pretty light add pack but might still do well in service.
It would be interesting to see a UOA of this oil after it's been run to the point that your old Subie requires a quart of added oil.
I think we'd all be curious what that UOA would look like.


18 Accord Hybrid FF
17 Forester 18K VME 0W-20
12 Accord LX 96K SSO 0W-20
09 Forester 95K M1HM 10W-30
01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20
96 Accord LX 104K T5 10W-30
95 318i
Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: fdcg27] #4228017
10/17/16 11:25 PM
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The land of USA-made Subies!
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
It would be interesting to see a UOA of this oil after it's been run to the point that your old Subie requires a quart of added oil.
I think we'd all be curious what that UOA would look like.


That's the plan, anyways... but there is no set timetable. For some reason that I have not yet figured out, my Subaru does not consume oil with any rhyme nor reason. I ran T6 for the first 3-4 oil changes and maybe had to add 0.5 quarts for all the OCIs total (7,500 mi each). Then, because I couldn't just leave well enough alone, I went with M1 0W-40. And it sucked down a quart in about 4k miles. Next up, Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5W-40. This was cruising along with zero usage up until about 6k, then used a full quart over the next 500 miles. This led to PPHM (last fill before this Harvest King) which didn't use any oil over a 5.8k OCI, but made all kinds of racket on startup.

Oh... I'm a filter [censored] too. Had PureOne 14610, M1-104, a K&N spec'd for a Porsche 924 (why? because it fit, didn't leak, and held over a half-quart more of oil!), and a Bosch D+ 3323 I believe. So in terms of being absolutely scientific, it wasn't. But I would imagine the time to hit a half quart of oil is probably around 4k. At current usage, it may be spring before I get there. How harsh the winter is will determine the amount of miles the old Forester gets since it's about 9.5mpg down on the Fusion I'm currently driving.

Glad you guys 'enjoyed' this new oil. So far, for $12, I'm good with it at 6k changes. Sometimes our expectations of oil these days beat up the reality of economy...

Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #4501319
08/29/17 01:25 PM
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The land of USA-made Subies!
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OK... update. Almost a year later, car has about 3k on it since usage has been reduced. I will likely go ahead and get the UOA done just to see how it lasted.

FWIW, this oil is Dexos approved and now has a daily price of only $9.99 for 5 quarts!

Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #4501510
08/29/17 05:03 PM
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I just traded in my Mustang. My new car uses Pennzoil 5W-40 Euro formula. It's $9.00 per quart! And they just opened a new Rural King 25 miles away from me! I bought two jugs of Harvest King I can't personally use and gave them to my sister for her car.

Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #4502116
08/30/17 09:09 AM
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Is this version of Harvest King made by CITGO?


2015 Infiniti Q50
VAS 5W-30 + FRAM PH6607

2015 Nissan Murano
Mobil1 AFE 0W-20 + FRAM XG6607
Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #4502399
08/30/17 02:57 PM
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The land of USA-made Subies!
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I think that's what the consensus was... it's been a year since I looked at the bottle. It is no longer WPP since they changed from the 'Rural King' to 'Harvest King' branding.

Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #4502632
08/30/17 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted By: SubieRubyRoo
I think that's what the consensus was... it's been a year since I looked at the bottle. It is no longer WPP since they changed from the 'Rural King' to 'Harvest King' branding.
Their "RK" synthetic was from Warren Oil, not WPP. (Yes, those similar names are confusing.)


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