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#4227748 - 10/17/16 04:55 PM Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA
SubieRubyRoo Offline


Registered: 05/14/12
Posts: 861
Loc: Winchester, Indiana
Well... about a month late. Here is the VOA. $11.99 for 5 quarts at Rural King. Not by any means something to go ape about, but it looks solid for the price. I know, I know... I paid for 4 oil changes for a VOA with TBN... but sometimes you sacrifice for the community.

This went into my 2001 Subaru with 213k last week. Seems quieter than PPHM on startup so far.


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#4227766 - 10/17/16 05:17 PM Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo]
car51 Offline


Registered: 03/12/15
Posts: 9849
Loc: Southwest PA
Thanks for the VOA and it's a serviceable oil USA thumbsup approved

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#4227770 - 10/17/16 05:19 PM Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo]
Oregoonian Offline


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Loc: Bend, Oregon
Looks pretty good for that low-priced syntheic oil.
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#4227788 - 10/17/16 05:45 PM Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo]
Falken Offline


Registered: 07/30/12
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Loc: Montreal, QC, Canada
That's a good price but I find differences.

I have a strong Gold Plug drain plug and when I did a run of Shell CT Housebrand synthetic against full blown Pennzoil Ultra, there was 4-5x more metal particles on the plug with the housebranded oil.

But at this point in my car's life, the housebrand synthetics are more than good enough.
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#4227814 - 10/17/16 06:37 PM Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo]
UltrafanUK Offline


Registered: 04/18/16
Posts: 985
Loc: England
Thanks for posting, as it's always good to see a new VOA.
The odd thing about this oil is that although it has a little Moly, it has no Boron and a low level of Zinc based FM, EP and AW additives. I presume the lack of Zinc is required for some type of DPF approval.
It also has GTX levels of detergents, so I would not use it to clean up a block or an extended OCI.
Additives cost more than a cheap HC synthetic base stock these days and some of the comments about TBN are a tad off, 7.6 is kind of low, 9 or 10 would be more reasonable.


Edited by UltrafanUK (10/17/16 06:44 PM)
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#4227826 - 10/17/16 06:47 PM Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo]
WobblyElvis Offline


Registered: 09/23/14
Posts: 1270
Loc: Toronto Canada
I don't get it. Maybe I'm missing something. I use cheap house brand conventional oil and it comes out of the engine with more additives still present than in this VOA. All 5 additives are higher in my used oil.

What makes this a good oil, the TBN?

Thank you for posting this analysis.

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#4227838 - 10/17/16 06:58 PM Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: WobblyElvis]
UltrafanUK Offline


Registered: 04/18/16
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Loc: England
Not much, although it might well be cheaper than GTX 5w30!
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#4227856 - 10/17/16 07:13 PM Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: UltrafanUK]
69GTX Offline


Registered: 09/23/15
Posts: 3742
Loc: Connecticut
Very weak add pack. Almost looks like a low SAPS oil but I doubt it was intended as such. Low Ca, low Phos, low Zinc, low everything. I wouldn't count on this getting through an extended OCI like other major brands (Castrol, M1, PP, QSUD, Synpower, etc.). A serviceable oil....but maybe only for 3K-4K miles.
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#4227864 - 10/17/16 07:21 PM Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
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Loc: OH
This oil has a pretty light add pack but might still do well in service.
It would be interesting to see a UOA of this oil after it's been run to the point that your old Subie requires a quart of added oil.
I think we'd all be curious what that UOA would look like.
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#4228017 - 10/17/16 11:25 PM Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: fdcg27]
SubieRubyRoo Offline


Registered: 05/14/12
Posts: 861
Loc: Winchester, Indiana
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
It would be interesting to see a UOA of this oil after it's been run to the point that your old Subie requires a quart of added oil.
I think we'd all be curious what that UOA would look like.


That's the plan, anyways... but there is no set timetable. For some reason that I have not yet figured out, my Subaru does not consume oil with any rhyme nor reason. I ran T6 for the first 3-4 oil changes and maybe had to add 0.5 quarts for all the OCIs total (7,500 mi each). Then, because I couldn't just leave well enough alone, I went with M1 0W-40. And it sucked down a quart in about 4k miles. Next up, Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5W-40. This was cruising along with zero usage up until about 6k, then used a full quart over the next 500 miles. This led to PPHM (last fill before this Harvest King) which didn't use any oil over a 5.8k OCI, but made all kinds of racket on startup.

Oh... I'm a filter [censored] too. Had PureOne 14610, M1-104, a K&N spec'd for a Porsche 924 (why? because it fit, didn't leak, and held over a half-quart more of oil!), and a Bosch D+ 3323 I believe. So in terms of being absolutely scientific, it wasn't. But I would imagine the time to hit a half quart of oil is probably around 4k. At current usage, it may be spring before I get there. How harsh the winter is will determine the amount of miles the old Forester gets since it's about 9.5mpg down on the Fusion I'm currently driving.

Glad you guys 'enjoyed' this new oil. So far, for $12, I'm good with it at 6k changes. Sometimes our expectations of oil these days beat up the reality of economy...

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#4501319 - 08/29/17 01:25 PM Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo]
SubieRubyRoo Offline


Registered: 05/14/12
Posts: 861
Loc: Winchester, Indiana
OK... update. Almost a year later, car has about 3k on it since usage has been reduced. I will likely go ahead and get the UOA done just to see how it lasted.

FWIW, this oil is Dexos approved and now has a daily price of only $9.99 for 5 quarts!

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#4501510 - 08/29/17 05:03 PM Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo]
HappyLittlePony Offline


Registered: 03/06/10
Posts: 119
Loc: FL
I just traded in my Mustang. My new car uses Pennzoil 5W-40 Euro formula. It's $9.00 per quart! And they just opened a new Rural King 25 miles away from me! I bought two jugs of Harvest King I can't personally use and gave them to my sister for her car.

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#4502116 - 08/30/17 09:09 AM Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo]
sir1900 Offline


Registered: 03/12/09
Posts: 1565
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan
Is this version of Harvest King made by CITGO?
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#4502399 - 08/30/17 02:57 PM Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo]
SubieRubyRoo Offline


Registered: 05/14/12
Posts: 861
Loc: Winchester, Indiana
I think that's what the consensus was... it's been a year since I looked at the bottle. It is no longer WPP since they changed from the 'Rural King' to 'Harvest King' branding.

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#4502632 - 08/30/17 06:55 PM Re: Harvest King Full Synthetic 5W-30 VOA [Re: SubieRubyRoo]
CR94 Offline


Registered: 03/20/16
Posts: 966
Loc: Western S.C. since 1996
Originally Posted By: SubieRubyRoo
I think that's what the consensus was... it's been a year since I looked at the bottle. It is no longer WPP since they changed from the 'Rural King' to 'Harvest King' branding.
Their "RK" synthetic was from Warren Oil, not WPP. (Yes, those similar names are confusing.)
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