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Purolator Boss 10241, 5310 miles C&P #4216730
10/02/16 07:16 PM
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FlyNavyP3 Offline OP
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Hey everyone, did my pre road trip oil change on the 4Runner today. Truck had 5009 miles on this oil change according to the ODO which is ~6% slow so actual miles on this OCI is 5310, 183 hours of total run time of which 53 are idle hours. Oil used was Lubro Moly (Liqui Moly) 10w40 MOS2. ADBV was cut through in 2 places by the baseplate and had 3 total cuts in it ( 1 didn't make it all the way through) the baseplate holes were razor sharp so I'm not surprised it was cut.



















The filter was part of an oil change special that I got a while ago so I figured what the heck, I'll use it. There was little to nothing in the media, could've stayed in service longer. The only thing wrong with the filter was the ADBV, media was sturdy and intact "wire backing" was a cloth mesh as pictured. Loovers are relatively small but there are a ton of them, in each row of loovers one set of holes faces the baseplate the other faces the dome, makes the center tube unidirectional I suppose. I certainly won't be going out of my way to buy a Boss anytime soon...


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Re: Purolator Boss 10241, 5310 miles C&P [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4216745
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Purolator seems to have traded tearing media for cut ADBVs.

Re: Purolator Boss 10241, 5310 miles C&P [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4216772
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Strange that there was little to nothing caught in the media after 5000 miles on an engine with over 317.000 miles... Im wondering if it spent a lot of time in bypass due to the heavy oil and those tiny louvers..
As for the torn anti drainback valve that seems to be very common with these filters.. I run away from anything made by them..
The only good thing about them is the paint job everything else seems to be a problem.

Use a quality filter next time..


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Re: Purolator Boss 10241, 5310 miles C&P [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4216778
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Or he uses synthetic oil? Seriously that was a low blow crazyoildude...


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Re: Purolator Boss 10241, 5310 miles C&P [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4216782
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Purolator says "we will fix tearing issue" and leave burrs in baseplate instead!"

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Re: Purolator Boss 10241, 5310 miles C&P [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4216785
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Low Blow? Read some of my previous posts some laughed and some jumped up and down but look at what is being posted it's all coming out..Believe what you want but look at what people are posting... Some filters are full of problems.


Check To See That The Oil Jugs You Buy Have The Exact Amount Of Oil In Them And Have An Inner Seal Under The Cap. I Use Mobil 1 And Fram Ultra Filters
Re: Purolator Boss 10241, 5310 miles C&P [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4216792
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I have had oil filters look like theres nothing on them too. I dont just use purolator. I use Suptertech, purolator, WIX, fram, CQ blue, MAHLE. If you use synthetic it will usually come out like that! Just because it has louvers doesnt mean [censored].


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Re: Purolator Boss 10241, 5310 miles C&P [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4216802
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I guess it is my eyes, because the filter looks black, and it started out white and fluffy. When the inside parts are pressed together the cuts probably don't leak, being rubber and all.

Re: Purolator Boss 10241, 5310 miles C&P [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4216805
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Yeah... The cartridge filter in my 390,000 mile 750i always came out a dark brown with no debris as well... Must have been running in bypass, right?

I can't believe the [censored] that gets posted here sometimes. I wonder why oil and filters turn dark... contaminants maybe? I can't be sure. :screwy:

Nice C&P OP. I'd use the filter if I got it as a part of a deal. Little slits in the ADV don't stress me out.

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Re: Purolator Boss 10241, 5310 miles C&P [Re: rooflessVW] #4216811
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Yeah... The cartridge filter in my 390,000 mile 750i always came out a dark brown with no debris as well... Must have been running in bypass, right?

I can't believe the [censored] that gets posted here sometimes. I wonder why oil and filters turn dark... contaminants maybe? I can't be sure. :screwy:

Nice C&P OP. I'd use the filter if I got it as a part of a deal. Little slits in the ADV don't stress me out.


Agreed


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Re: Purolator Boss 10241, 5310 miles C&P [Re: crazyoildude] #4216820
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Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
those tiny louvers..


If you think those louvers are tiny, you should see the average main or rod bearing oil clearance LOL


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Re: Purolator Boss 10241, 5310 miles C&P [Re: PeterPolyol] #4216825
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Originally Posted By: PeterPolyol
Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
those tiny louvers..


If you think those louvers are tiny, you should see the average main or rod bearing oil clearance LOL


Well he's claimed that he owned a shop and now his brother has a shop. I'm sure both of them have torn down many engines so realistically he should know small that clearance is.

Filter media looks good. Crazyoildude can you explain a quality filter to me?

Re: Purolator Boss 10241, 5310 miles C&P [Re: crazyoildude] #4216833
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Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
Strange that there was little to nothing caught in the media after 5000 miles on an engine with over 317.000 miles... Im wondering if it spent a lot of time in bypass due to the heavy oil and those tiny louvers. ...
Not strange at all. Engines in decent shape don't provide as much junk as you imagine for the oil filter to capture. The "tiny louvers" look ample, considering the number of them.


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Re: Purolator Boss 10241, 5310 miles C&P [Re: rooflessVW] #4216852
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Little slits in the ADV don't stress me out.


Cut up ADBVs don't bother you? ... hummm. Might as well throw in some torn media too. grin

Re: Purolator Boss 10241, 5310 miles C&P [Re: PeterPolyol] #4216855
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Originally Posted By: PeterPolyol
Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
those tiny louvers..


If you think those louvers are tiny, you should see the average main or rod bearing oil clearance LOL


Not a very good analogy, as the filter supplies the whole engine's oil flow volume, not just a tight bearing or two. Some engines flow 10~12 GPM at high revs.

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