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Are moog suspension parts junk? #4209284
09/22/16 08:36 PM
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I just had a shop replace both upper and lower ball joints and both inner and outer tie rods and I'm starting to feel some loose parts down there. Mainly when going up or down a bump slowly where it makes the truck rock back and forth you can feel it. I just had these parts put on maybe 5 or 6000 miles ago.


2007.5 dodge cummins 6.7 liter. Chevron Delo400 15w40. 7000 mile or 250-300hr intervals.

Re: Are moog suspension parts junk? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4209289
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Rocking back and forth? Sounds like shocks.

Re: Are moog suspension parts junk? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4209294
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I recently replaced the same suspension parts on my escalade and many previous trucks w all Moog parts. Zero issues. We're they installed correctly?


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17 Cadillac ATS (wife)
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Re: Are moog suspension parts junk? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4209295
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your truck will explode any minute, sell it to me.

Re: Are moog suspension parts junk? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4209297
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Moog "Problem Solver" parts are generally really good, But I don't do suspension work as often as I did years ago.
My 2500HD has the original Ball Joints at 350,000, I just keep them greased.

Without actually checking the condition of yours....You can't condemn parts just because that was the last thing installed!


2001 Chevy Camaro L92/4L80E
2006 Chevy 2500HD LBZ/Allison 1000
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Re: Are moog suspension parts junk? [Re: Ethan1] #4209300
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Originally Posted By: Ethan1
Rocking back and forth? Sounds like shocks.


I'm talking about you go over a speed bump and the truck rocks back and forth a couple times, not because the shocks are shot, that's just what trucks do. lol


2007.5 dodge cummins 6.7 liter. Chevron Delo400 15w40. 7000 mile or 250-300hr intervals.

Re: Are moog suspension parts junk? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4209303
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Moog has a lot of their stuff made overseas now so it makes one wonder about quality. I guess I got lucky with their USA-made tie rods on my Accord.

Jack the truck up and look for loose parts. If the joints came with Zerk fittings, give 'em a couple shots of fresh grease.

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Re: Are moog suspension parts junk? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4209307
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I've never had problems with Moog. I agree with the above, sounds more like you have worn shocks; that actually can cause a problem with excessive side to side rocking. I had that issue on my truck as well. Another indicator was my rear tires breaking loose more easily when turning corners from a stop.

Re: Are moog suspension parts junk? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4209316
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They're good parts if it's the "Problem Solver" line of the part.

Could be shocks, control arm bushings, track bar, body mount, etc.


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2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 230k Valvoline 5w30 & Fram Ultra
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Re: Are moog suspension parts junk? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4209317
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I did my trucks lower ball joints, upper control arms and inner/outer tie rod ends with Moog CK parts about 5000 miles ago with no issues.
Did they use CK or RK parts? CK are the better parts, but RK should last more than 5000 miles (and are warrantied for 3 years vs the better limited lifetime of the CK).

As said, if they are the CK, try a few pumps of grease in the zerk fittings. Get under there and see if there is anything loose. Or just bring it back by the shop that did it and let them check it.


1994 Honda VT1100: Peak 15w-40/PSL/2500 mile OCI
2002 Ford F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard Syn/1yr OCI
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Re: Are moog suspension parts junk? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4209333
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They're junk now like most everything else. Buy OEM or the cheapest chinese part. That's the two options now.

Re: Are moog suspension parts junk? [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4209341
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I beat up on the Moog parts in my Jeep all of the time. And I do mean BEAT. Haven't had a problem, but I keep them greased every 5000 miles with Amsoil Racing Grease.


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Re: Are moog suspension parts junk? [Re: DoubleWasp] #4209343
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Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
I beat up on the Moog parts in my Jeep all of the time. And I do mean BEAT. Haven't had a problem, but I keep them greased every 5000 miles with Amsoil Racing Grease.


You could use the cheapest grease imaginable and you'd never notice a difference.


The problem is moog reboxes now. So for certain applications you still get the good canada/us made stuff, as is the case for stuff like your jeep. But for many apps now you get chinese junk same as in the $9 ball joint white box.

Now and then you get a japanese made 555 part in an app for toyota or nissan.

Re: Are moog suspension parts junk? [Re: KingCake] #4209353
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Originally Posted By: KingCake
They're junk now like most everything else. Buy OEM or the cheapest chinese part. That's the two options now.


OEM Chrysler chassis parts are junk as well....


2001 Chevy Camaro L92/4L80E
2006 Chevy 2500HD LBZ/Allison 1000
2010 Toyota Corolla 2ZR-FE/Auto
Re: Are moog suspension parts junk? [Re: KingCake] #4209372
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Originally Posted By: KingCake
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
I beat up on the Moog parts in my Jeep all of the time. And I do mean BEAT. Haven't had a problem, but I keep them greased every 5000 miles with Amsoil Racing Grease.


You could use the cheapest grease imaginable and you'd never notice a difference.


The problem is moog reboxes now. So for certain applications you still get the good canada/us made stuff, as is the case for stuff like your jeep. But for many apps now you get chinese junk same as in the $9 ball joint white box.

Now and then you get a japanese made 555 part in an app for toyota or nissan.


You must buy a lot of suspension parts.

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