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#4163107 - 07/28/16 08:37 AM FCA to produce no *cars* in the US
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
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It looks like it's going to build only Jeep and Ram models in the US.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/07/28/fiat-chrysler-ending-car-production-us/87649136/

And this is really curious:

Quote:
Despite FCA's plans to stop producing the Dart and Chrysler 200, Marchionne continues to say he is looking for a partner willing to make those cars for the automaker.


They want to subcontract production of those models to someone else?

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#4163114 - 07/28/16 08:42 AM Re: FCA to produce no *cars* in the US [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Yup, the only cars will be the 300 and the Fiat 500.

Nobody has taken FCA up on their offer to build compact and mid-size cars so come 2017 they won't have any in their lineup. They're betting on trucks with a $1.5B revamping of the facility that builds the 200...which was a big investment in the first place.

Remember all the hype about a world-class sedan built by Detroit? It was a [censored] car that couldn't compete and since it didn't generate profits, it gets cut.
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#4163120 - 07/28/16 08:47 AM Re: FCA to produce no *cars* in the US [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Chrysler is screwed if gas prices go back up. You'd think they'd learn from the past.
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#4163128 - 07/28/16 08:51 AM Re: FCA to produce no *cars* in the US [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Can someone explain why this particular brand in general has undergone so many ownership/management changes? FCA is now what used to be Daimler Chrysler, which used to be Dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler correct?
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#4163129 - 07/28/16 08:52 AM Re: FCA to produce no *cars* in the US [Re: whip]
itguy08 Offline


Registered: 09/15/11
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Originally Posted By: whip
Chrysler is screwed if gas prices go back up. You'd think they'd learn from the past.


Hopefully this time they will go away for good.

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#4163131 - 07/28/16 08:53 AM Re: FCA to produce no *cars* in the US [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Registered: 08/24/11
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Perhaps YUGO can step in with some high quality production.

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#4163135 - 07/28/16 08:55 AM Re: FCA to produce no *cars* in the US [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Well, they do have company in this pattern. GM is not going to continue their Buick Verano for the same reasons.

I'm no fan of FCA, their leader spends too much time and breath talking about how he needs a partner to survive...I guess from his vantage point he's circling the drain?
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#4163137 - 07/28/16 08:58 AM Re: FCA to produce no *cars* in the US [Re: HerrStig]
itguy08 Offline


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Originally Posted By: HerrStig
Perhaps YUGO can step in with some high quality production.


That would be an upgrade for FCA!

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#4163141 - 07/28/16 09:01 AM Re: FCA to produce no *cars* in the US [Re: KGMtech]
itguy08 Offline


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Originally Posted By: KGMtech

I'm no fan of FCA, their leader spends too much time and breath talking about how he needs a partner to survive...I guess from his vantage point he's circling the drain?


Pretty much. He's realizing what a POS company he bought. The only bright spot is Jeep and that's due to perceived "coolness" not because they are great vehicles. Ram has the highest incentives on the hood ($16k as of the commercials I saw on TV) just to move product. Chrysler in general has the highest incentives and lowest profit margins of automakers....

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#4163146 - 07/28/16 09:08 AM Re: FCA to produce no *cars* in the US [Re: HerrStig]
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Registered: 07/22/15
Posts: 2853
Loc: MD
I believe we blew up that factory way back when.


Originally Posted By: HerrStig
Perhaps YUGO can step in with some high quality production.

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#4163152 - 07/28/16 09:16 AM Re: FCA to produce no *cars* in the US [Re: Reddy45]
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Can someone explain why this particular brand in general has undergone so many ownership/management changes? FCA is now what used to be Daimler Chrysler, which used to be Dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler correct?


You missed at least one, in there. Cerberus Management bought Chrysler from Daimler and owned it for a bit, and there may have been another one as well.

I'm not sure why it's been through so many owners. It's no stranger to brand-trading, though. Remember the AMC/Jeep/Eagle dealers? I think they were tied-in with Chrysler to some degree at the time as well. They also had a joint venture with Mitsubishi called Diamond-Star Motors. I think, at best, Chrysler has suffered from a lack of corporate direction. They've had their hands in so many different cookie jars in the past, it's hard to discern what their end game was at the time.

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#4163181 - 07/28/16 09:56 AM Re: FCA to produce no *cars* in the US [Re: Hokiefyd]
Miller88 Offline


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Renault had a controlling interest in American Motors. American Motors brought in a bunch of Renault captive Imports as "Eagle" brand, not to be confused with AMC's Eagle lineup of 4x4 Hornet based cars.

Chrysler contracted out manufacturing of a few vehicles to American Motors in the early 80s, I read that's what lead to Chrysler buying American Motors from Renault. Chrysler bought American Motors and bought out Renault's share in 1987 but let American Motors control their own manufacturing of AMC/Jeep products until 1990.

Chrysler was bought by Daimler and Daimler actually made their products worse. Then Daimler sold Chrysler to Cerberus ... and Cerberus just buys large businesses, bleeds any extra money out of them and sells them to someone else. Continued to use a lot of Daimler stuff and still has issues. Then Fiat bought them and Fiatsler was born.
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#4163186 - 07/28/16 10:03 AM Re: FCA to produce no *cars* in the US [Re: Hokiefyd]
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Loc: NorthEast
That is OK, the died in wool fans of Chrysler products will still claim that Chrysler is more "American" than foreign brands which actually manufacture in America.

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#4163193 - 07/28/16 10:13 AM Re: FCA to produce no *cars* in the US [Re: Vikas]
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I wonder what !! Henry, walter, Louis and william would think of the mess they have made of there companies.
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#4163197 - 07/28/16 10:17 AM Re: FCA to produce no *cars* in the US [Re: Miller88]
Reddy45 Offline


Registered: 08/15/08
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Originally Posted By: Miller88
Renault had a controlling interest in American Motors. American Motors brought in a bunch of Renault captive Imports as "Eagle" brand, not to be confused with AMC's Eagle lineup of 4x4 Hornet based cars.

Chrysler contracted out manufacturing of a few vehicles to American Motors in the early 80s, I read that's what lead to Chrysler buying American Motors from Renault. Chrysler bought American Motors and bought out Renault's share in 1987 but let American Motors control their own manufacturing of AMC/Jeep products until 1990.

Chrysler was bought by Daimler and Daimler actually made their products worse. Then Daimler sold Chrysler to Cerberus ... and Cerberus just buys large businesses, bleeds any extra money out of them and sells them to someone else. Continued to use a lot of Daimler stuff and still has issues. Then Fiat bought them and Fiatsler was born.


OK wow quite a history.

It still puzzles me that they also branched off the trucks under the brand name "Ram".

Too much corporate reorganizing going on. I feel for their employees who probably spend half their time now figuring out how to route orders to departments that have a different name each week.

I used to work for a failing software company that would reorg once a quarter as a half assed effort to minimize people from getting too disgruntled. Hint: it doesn't work that way.
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