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100 mpg engine in the making. #4132503
06/23/16 08:00 AM
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CourierDriver Offline OP
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http://www.khou.com/features/san-antonino-man-has-engine-that-gets-100-mpg/242673922 If this works out, wow....thought this was interesting, now for our in house engineers to hash it out.


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Re: 100 mpg engine in the making. [Re: CourierDriver] #4132505
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Some one will deem it too (place evil thing here). Or someone will buy patent and lock it up like the everlasting brakes.


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99 HD XL1200S 20K VR1 20w50, NG1515
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Re: 100 mpg engine in the making. [Re: CourierDriver] #4132520
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An engine that gets 100 mpg? The engine gets zero mpg the vehicle it's in gets the mpg.


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Re: 100 mpg engine in the making. [Re: CourierDriver] #4132522
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The question remains is how expensive is it to manufacture such an engine and how expensive will it be to maintain it?

Re: 100 mpg engine in the making. [Re: Dyusik] #4132525
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Originally Posted By: Dyusik
Or someone will buy patent and lock it up like the everlasting brakes.


Wait, what? Lol

Re: 100 mpg engine in the making. [Re: CourierDriver] #4132563
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Put the 100 mpg carb on it and get Two Hundred.

Last edited by HerrStig; 06/23/16 09:13 AM.
Re: 100 mpg engine in the making. [Re: HerrStig] #4132574
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And don't forget water injection.

Originally Posted By: HerrStig
Put the 100 mpg carb on it and get Two Hundred.

Re: 100 mpg engine in the making. [Re: CourierDriver] #4132635
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And wrap the fuel line around around a magnet, and put the tornado thing in the air intake

Re: 100 mpg engine in the making. [Re: Ethan1] #4132840
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Originally Posted By: Ethan1
And wrap the fuel line around around a magnet, and put the tornado thing in the air intake


You forgot the 0w16 oil!


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Re: 100 mpg engine in the making. [Re: CourierDriver] #4133142
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New British stealth subs use the sterling engine because it's so quiet, and much cheaper/safer than a traditional nuclear powerplant.

I used to play with the other technology used in this engine. I would stack Peltier plates of varying sizes on high speed cpu's to keep them from frying. It looked like an upside down pyramid, and offered the advantages of liquid nitrogen without the need for storage tanks.

I also experimented with Peltier generators, which is similar to the technology used in this engine. You apply heat on one side, and cool the other side by a heat sink/airflow and it generates electricity. That's the beauty of this motor, the waste heat from the Sterling engine is used to make electricity directly, not wasted.

I say good for him, and I hope he becomes very rich like HerrStig, or at least half as rich.....


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Re: 100 mpg engine in the making. [Re: HighViscosity] #4135729
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Unless you can travel around in a vacuum, it'll be hard to get that kind of mileage. Unless you're happy going about 40 mph.


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Re: 100 mpg engine in the making. [Re: HighViscosity] #4143597
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Originally Posted By: HighViscosity
New British stealth subs use the sterling engine because it's so quiet, and much cheaper/safer than a traditional nuclear powerplant.

I used to play with the other technology used in this engine. I would stack Peltier plates of varying sizes on high speed cpu's to keep them from frying. It looked like an upside down pyramid, and offered the advantages of liquid nitrogen without the need for storage tanks.

I also experimented with Peltier generators, which is similar to the technology used in this engine. You apply heat on one side, and cool the other side by a heat sink/airflow and it generates electricity. That's the beauty of this motor, the waste heat from the Sterling engine is used to make electricity directly, not wasted.

I say good for him, and I hope he becomes very rich like HerrStig, or at least half as rich.....
And the conversion efficiency on a Peltier is ???? I'm still waiting for a Peltier - no moving parts- automobile AC unit. I do exhale, though. BTW how's that Sterling work when submerged for three months?

Re: 100 mpg engine in the making. [Re: CourierDriver] #4145398
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Peltier junctions aren't very efficient as a way to transfer heat. Even the small 60w ones pull up to 10 amps at 12v. For cooling uses, phase change is more efficient if you want to get much below ambient. Peltiers only produce about a 40 degree difference from hot side to cold side, the advantage is that they are small and very cheap and can be passively cooled if you have a good heatsink. There's also no moving parts to wear out or make noise. Makes them popular for wine coolers that don't need to be that cold but do need to be cheap, quiet and small.

Re: 100 mpg engine in the making. [Re: ironman_gq] #4145941
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Originally Posted By: ironman_gq
Peltier junctions aren't very efficient as a way to transfer heat. Even the small 60w ones pull up to 10 amps at 12v. For cooling uses, phase change is more efficient if you want to get much below ambient. Peltiers only produce about a 40 degree difference from hot side to cold side, the advantage is that they are small and very cheap and can be passively cooled if you have a good heatsink. There's also no moving parts to wear out or make noise. Makes them popular for wine coolers that don't need to be that cold but do need to be cheap, quiet and small.
The portable junction cooler I have needs a fan to move air over the sink.

Re: 100 mpg engine in the making. [Re: HighViscosity] #4145942
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Originally Posted By: HighViscosity
New British stealth subs use the sterling engine because it's so quiet, and much cheaper/safer than a traditional nuclear powerplant.

I used to play with the other technology used in this engine. I would stack Peltier plates of varying sizes on high speed cpu's to keep them from frying. It looked like an upside down pyramid, and offered the advantages of liquid nitrogen without the need for storage tanks.

I also experimented with Peltier generators, which is similar to the technology used in this engine. You apply heat on one side, and cool the other side by a heat sink/airflow and it generates electricity. That's the beauty of this motor, the waste heat from the Sterling engine is used to make electricity directly, not wasted.

I say good for him, and I hope he becomes very rich like HerrStig, or at least half as rich.....
Waste a lot of energy on envy of your betters and you'll never be "rich". I buy used Tototas and take them to over 300K. That's one way to end up with some money in the bank.

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