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California drought and 3" fish delta smelt #4109839 05/29/16 03:18 PM
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To protect smelt from water pumps, government regulators have flushed 1.4 trillion gallons of water into the San Francisco Bay since 2008. That would have been enough to sustain 6.4 million Californians for six years. Yet a survey of young adult smelt in the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta last fall yielded just eight fish, the lowest level since 1967. An annual spring survey by state biologists turned up six smelt in March and one this month. In 2014 the fall-spring counts were 88 and 36. While the surveys are a sampling and not intended to suggest the full population, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service warns that “the delta smelt is now in danger of extinction.”

Every year they flushed enough water for 6 million people to save few tiny fish.

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In 2009 Central Valley farmers sued the Fish and Wildlife Service under the Administrative Procedure Act for failing to apply the “best available science.” In a 225-page decision in 2010, federal Judge Oliver Wanger skewered the federal agency for not conducting an environmental-impact statement, and for misapplying data and making unexplained assumptions. “The public cannot afford sloppy science and unidirectional prescriptions that ignore California’s water needs,” he wrote. The judge ordered the Fish and Wildlife Service to redo its “arbitrary, capricious and unlawful” regulations.[quote]

But last year the Ninth Circuit of Appeals—renowned for its liberal outlook—reversed the decision. The three-judge panel did rip the agency’s biological opinion as a “jumble of disjointed facts and analyses.” Yet the ruling said that the restrictive pumping limits were warranted to “counteract the uncertainties” of its scientific analyses. In other words: The government’s actions were justified by its sloppy science.



http://www.wsj.com/articles/forget-the-missing-rainfall-california-wheres-the-delta-smelt-1430085510


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Re: California drought and 3" fish delta smelt [Re: HTSS_TR] #4109845 05/29/16 03:25 PM
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This is actually old old news. The problem with the government is that the idiot voters keep on reelecting the poor quality politicians.

Re: California drought and 3" fish delta smelt [Re: HTSS_TR] #4109847 05/29/16 03:29 PM
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The government’s actions were justified by its sloppy science.
That's the rule on most things.


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Re: California drought and 3" fish delta smelt [Re: hatt] #4109865 05/29/16 03:55 PM
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The government’s actions were justified by its sloppy science.
That's the rule on most things.


I wouldn't even use the term, "science."

Maybe political agenda?


The value of a scientific theory is its ability to prompt further study, not that it has any relation to the established facts of scientific reality.
Re: California drought and 3" fish delta smelt [Re: HTSS_TR] #4109870 05/29/16 04:00 PM
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Nothing new. It's a race to the bottom in CA. The concerning part is where will all the idiot politicians flock to once the state has nothing left?

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Re: California drought and 3" fish delta smelt [Re: HTSS_TR] #4109914 05/29/16 05:21 PM
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When will California be completely out of fresh usable water ?

Re: California drought and 3" fish delta smelt [Re: Mr Nice] #4109945 05/29/16 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
When will California be completely out of fresh usable water ?

only had 18ft of water in my well over a year ago so not long if we don't get some good rain


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Re: California drought and 3" fish delta smelt [Re: Reddy45] #4109953 05/29/16 06:42 PM
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Nothing new. It's a race to the bottom in CA. The concerning part is where will all the idiot politicians flock to once the state has nothing left?
your worry should be if the idiot Californians move near you!!!

Re: California drought and 3" fish delta smelt [Re: Mr Nice] #4110031 05/29/16 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
When will California be completely out of fresh usable water ?



Parts of florida are next. Plenty of salt water intrusion due to extracting too much groundwater.


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Re: California drought and 3" fish delta smelt [Re: simple_gifts] #4110072 05/29/16 09:35 PM
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We eat fried smelts up here in new england. You're making me hungry.

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