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My Speeding Ticket - Conclusion #4108694 05/28/16 07:19 AM
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This may be informative, but best not to speed.

So, last Month I received that Speeding Ticket.
I sent it back in pleading Not Guilty.
Yes, I was speeding but decided to play,,, the game.

I then received a new Court date (went yesterday).
I was in Court for 2 hours. went something like this:
Stood in line (signed-in), sat down.
Stood in another line (talked to Prosecutor), sat down.
Went before Judge, she said:
Judge: "How do you plead to a parking ticket" .... Me: guilty
Judge: "That will be $150, cash or credit ?" ........Me: cash
Judge: "Step to your right,,, next !"

There was no mention of Defensive Driving Class.
Perhaps because this was a speed trap where they had 4 Police cars pulling drivers over.

I know it was all about the money, but I was speeding so can't complain.
57 MPH in a 45. (the 55 MPH sign was 1/2 mile further ahead).

So, in conclusion, buy pleading Not Guilty and accepting the lesser charge, my Auto Insurance will not go up.
If I had plead Guilty and paid the fine, I would have had to take the Defensive Driving Class (8 hours) to erase the points so my Insurance Co. would not find out.

All in all, it went OK.
And I'm a safer driver.

Re: My Speeding Ticket - Conclusion [Re: larryinnewyork] #4108698 05/28/16 07:29 AM
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How's your conscience sitting with "playing the game" ?

Re: My Speeding Ticket - Conclusion [Re: larryinnewyork] #4108702 05/28/16 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted By: larryinnewyork
This may be informative, but best not to speed.

So, last Month I received that Speeding Ticket.
I sent it back in pleading Not Guilty.
Yes, I was speeding but decided to play,,, the game.

I then received a new Court date (went yesterday).
I was in Court for 2 hours. went something like this:
Stood in line (signed-in), sat down.
Stood in another line (talked to Prosecutor), sat down.
Went before Judge, she said:
Judge: "How do you plead to a parking ticket" .... Me: guilty
Judge: "That will be $150, cash or credit ?" ........Me: cash
Judge: "Step to your right,,, next !"

There was no mention of Defensive Driving Class.
Perhaps because this was a speed trap where they had 4 Police cars pulling drivers over.

I know it was all about the money, but I was speeding so can't complain.
57 MPH in a 45. (the 55 MPH sign was 1/2 mile further ahead).

So, in conclusion, buy pleading Not Guilty and accepting the lesser charge, my Auto Insurance will not go up.
If I had plead Guilty and paid the fine, I would have had to take the Defensive Driving Class (8 hours) to erase the points so my Insurance Co. would not find out.

All in all, it went OK.
And I'm a safer driver.


approved

A little too much appeasement to those you feel (here) that will jump all over you or whoever you anticipate will make grandiose and authoritarian statements, and make you feel like what you did was wrong.. I am sure they will come. But they aren't in your shoes, now, are they?

Play to win.
And well played.

Again: approved and Congratulations!

See? Speed traps.. Dont hold up in Court.

Re: My Speeding Ticket - Conclusion [Re: larryinnewyork] #4108704 05/28/16 07:33 AM
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His conscious is fine when he thinks about all the cold blooded murders, dirty politicians, dirty cops, nefarious janitors the courts plead out daily.

Job good op!

Don't blame him, blame the courts for being lazy.


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Re: My Speeding Ticket - Conclusion [Re: larryinnewyork] #4108706 05/28/16 07:39 AM
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Judge: "How do you plead to a parking ticket" .... Me: guilty

^ Really??

Re: My Speeding Ticket - Conclusion [Re: larryinnewyork] #4108707 05/28/16 07:40 AM
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Heck here in IL they plead a DUI down to a parking ticket. OP, I wouldn't feel guilty.


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Re: My Speeding Ticket - Conclusion [Re: gman2304] #4108708 05/28/16 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: gman2304
Judge: "How do you plead to a parking ticket" .... Me: guilty

^ Really??


That's the point...admittedly speeding, but then pleads (under oath) guilty to parking....

That's really low form.

Re: My Speeding Ticket - Conclusion [Re: 04SE] #4108710 05/28/16 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted By: 04SE
Heck here in IL they plead a DUI down to a parking ticket. OP, I wouldn't feel guilty.


I'll feel guilty after I become an aggressive road rage driver, and that will be never.
I'm a law abiding citizen who paid his fine, and is now a safer driver.

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Re: My Speeding Ticket - Conclusion [Re: gman2304] #4108711 05/28/16 07:50 AM
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In a town I won't identify there's a practice where a speeding ticket is pled down to a "dangerous parking" (say, on the highway where you're not allowed to) ticket.

You don't get points-you pay a $127 fine. And the town keeps the fine money.

In a speeding conviction you get points-the insurance company gets money (a truly unregulated, arbitrary amount) and the state gets 80% of the fine amount I'm told.

That it seems dishonest and corrosive to society (not entirely without sarcasm) I think it's a method to let nice people like us get off a little easier. Automatically rewarding insurance companies for arguable traffic judgements isn't just either.

If it becomes a problem the mechanics of the justice system can be tightened up in a flash.

As my Dad used to say, "Remember, things don't just happen. Things develop." Traffic/safety/insurance justice is all in this mix.

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I've never heard of anyone pleading down from a speeding ticket to a parking ticket. The state got their 30 pieces of silver, and I suppose that's what matters.

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Originally Posted By: gman2304
I've never heard of anyone pleading down from a speeding ticket to a parking ticket.


I also have never heard of this.

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Well, he did "park" on the road when he was pulled over! So there is nothing false about the ticket.

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Well done to work the system.


Now, insert long discussion about how the system is messed up, and the police are often used as the Revenue Enhancement Patrol.


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Re: My Speeding Ticket - Conclusion [Re: larryinnewyork] #4108742 05/28/16 08:49 AM
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This is pretty powerful evidence that the speed trap's purpose is revenue generation, and has not a thing to do with "Safety".

Re: My Speeding Ticket - Conclusion [Re: gman2304] #4108748 05/28/16 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted By: gman2304
I've never heard of anyone pleading down from a speeding ticket to a parking ticket. The state got their 30 pieces of silver, and I suppose that's what matters.


In NY they plead it down to "not following posted road signs". A fine but no points.


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