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need some methods of burping ait out #4107562
05/26/16 08:54 PM
05/26/16 08:54 PM
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long island ny
snake123 Offline OP
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Dexcool . they say it lasts 5 years , or 150000 , I have 43,000 only on the car. now the Dexcool in the reservoir overflow has very tiny flakes in it , but not big chunks, so I figure Ill do a complete drain and refill with fresh new Dexcool and distilled water. my question is how do I get the air out the old conventional way with out disturbing that bleeder screw , because my luck it will break off or leak so I would rather just rain it fill it with water run it drain it do it again , now when I'm ready to put the dexcool in and the rest with distilled water , how do I get all the air out , squeeze the radiator hoses , with the cap off cold.. and the fill it run it check it and redo that again .will this method work?

Re: need some methods of burping ait out [Re: snake123] #4107592
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You should loosen the bleeder, use a small wrench on it and give the wrench a couple of light taps with a hammer to break it free if need be,


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Re: need some methods of burping ait out [Re: snake123] #4107615
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When draining the coolant repeatedly, do you collect the coolant each time for recycle ? You would need a lot of gallon jugs to do the right thing.

Re: need some methods of burping ait out [Re: snake123] #4107650
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I am not sure about your particular model but in my experience you WILL need the bleeder if you want your heat to work.

I wouldn't worry about it, those things usually come loose as long as you don't do something dumb


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Re: need some methods of burping ait out [Re: Drosselmier] #4109437
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Originally Posted By: Drosselmier
When draining the coolant repeatedly, do you collect the coolant each time for recycle ? You would need a lot of gallon jugs to do the right thing.


I solved that problem by using distilled water.


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Re: need some methods of burping ait out [Re: snake123] #4134402
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I used the AirLift II for the first time recently, and I'll NEVER do a coolant fill again without it. 3 minute process, no burping, no mess, and it got the deep recesses of the heater core which is a royal [censored] to purge given its waaay higher than the rest of the coolant system.

https://youtu.be/YaRIxqAW3zk

I'll never do it again without it, worth every penny. This is the model I bought, I preferred the solid brass over the plastic economy version

UView 550000 Airlift Cooling System Leak Checker and Airlock Purge Tool Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002SRH5G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_afQBxbM03HRBG

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Re: need some methods of burping ait out [Re: kala_azar] #4142708
07/04/16 10:21 AM
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That air purge tool is pretty slick, but a little spendy.

My .02 - if you can open the bleeder screw, do so. If it's seized, inaccessible, non-existent or whatever, here's what I do:

1. Raise the front end (or rear if it's a mid/rear engine vehicle) of the car. Remember, the air will always want to rise to the highest point.

2. Remove the upper rad hose at the rad and fill through the hose until full.

3. Replace hose, and squeeze all accessible rad hoses repeatedly until you have 'pumped' coolant into the rad, reservoir, block, etc. Repeat this a few more times, until the hoses all feel full. Fill with coolant again as necessary.

4. Leave the rad cap off, start the engine and turn the heat on to max. If there is no hot air at the vents within a minute or two, shut the engine off - you have air trapped in the system. Repeat step 3 a few more times, then go back to step 4.

Eventually you'll get all of the air out of the system. It may take one attempt, it may take 5.

Be careful to avoid burning yourself - coolant can be hot. lol.

I've done this numerous times on various vehicles that had bleeder screws that were seized and have always been successful. Sometimes it takes a few tries, but it always works.

Re: need some methods of burping ait out [Re: Canadastang] #4155642
07/19/16 10:58 PM
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snake123 Offline OP
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thanks about squeezing the hoses

Re: need some methods of burping ait out [Re: snake123] #4181538
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Keep the radiator cover off....rev the engine for about 2000rpm until the cooling fans turn on(i.e. meaning the thermostat opened).
YOU will get a mess but it will remove the air


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Re: need some methods of burping ait out [Re: snake123] #4208226
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This is all you need... Spill-free funnel

You stick the o-ringed tube through the cap attachment, then stick the funnel on top. You fill antifreeze until you maintain a fluid level above the top of the radiator. Start the engine and turn the heater on high, let it run for a couple minutes. It will burp into the funnel and eliminate bubbles in the system. Once bubbling has stopped, turn the engine off. Stick the plug into the funnel. Disconnect funnel from filler tube. Place funnel over coolant jug. Remove plug and have a spill-free top off!

Re: need some methods of burping ait out [Re: snake123] #4208241
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Turning on the heat just makes it take longer to get fully hot.


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Re: need some methods of burping ait out [Re: snake123] #4223716
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I drill a small hole(1/16) in the thermostat so I never had to worry about it.


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Re: need some methods of burping ait out [Re: snake123] #4226022
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Originally Posted By: snake123
thanks about squeezing the hoses


When the cap is off.

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Re: need some methods of burping ait out [Re: kala_azar] #4283396
12/23/16 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: kala_azar
I used the AirLift II for the first time recently, and I'll NEVER do a coolant fill again without it. 3 minute process, no burping, no mess, and it got the deep recesses of the heater core which is a royal [censored] to purge given its waaay higher than the rest of the coolant system.

https://youtu.be/YaRIxqAW3zk

I'll never do it again without it, worth every penny. This is the model I bought, I preferred the solid brass over the plastic economy version

UView 550000 Airlift Cooling System Leak Checker and Airlock Purge Tool Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002SRH5G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_afQBxbM03HRBG


That Airlift kit gets "most" of the air out, not all. Youtube had a clear hose and PVC pipe cooling system mock up. You can see at the end of the vacuum there was air still in the tubes. No sale.

Here's the video on it that shows air STILL in the system. youtube

slomo

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Re: need some methods of burping ait out [Re: Lubener] #4283402
12/23/16 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: Lubener
I drill a small hole(1/16) in the thermostat so I never had to worry about it.


Just as he said. Self burping easy as pie. I drilled two holes in my Jeep CJ7 thermo. Without while refilling coolant, radiator was full. Temp gauge hit the moon. I was like what??? Did the two small hole trick in the thermostat. Problem solved, perfect heat for a Jeep anyway.

slomo

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