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Advice: Odyssey or Sienna? #4105574 05/24/16 06:43 PM
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I am in the market for a slightly used mini van. Looking for a 2013+ Odyssey or Sienna in 8 passenger configuration, middle of line trim.

A few thoughts:

- I did rent the T&C for a weekend and had it blown me away I would have seriously considered it despite the 7 passenger seating. Needless to say I was not overly impressed.

- I have yet to test drive either but after viewing the comparisons online it seems the Odyssey have the better middle seat in the second row, mainly the ease to store it away. Power/fuel economy between them is pretty much the same. I do prefer the AWD option on the Sienna but not at the cost of no spare and relying on run flat tires. Regardless, I live in northern Alberta and will have 4 snow tires on for winter which should suffice.

- I have thought about the Kia Sedonna, going to check out a demo this weekend at the dealer.

Any advice/inputs would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Advice: Odyssey or Sienna? [Re: Barwich] #4105584 05/24/16 06:51 PM
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Since the T&C is not an option I'd take the Sienna.


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Re: Advice: Odyssey or Sienna? [Re: Barwich] #4105594 05/24/16 07:03 PM
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The Odyssey uses a timing belt, and the Sienna a chain.

The Odyssey uses multi-link rear suspension, and the Sienna uses torsion beam. I wonder if it makes a difference in handling and road feel.


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Re: Advice: Odyssey or Sienna? [Re: Barwich] #4105596 05/24/16 07:05 PM
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Re: Advice: Odyssey or Sienna? [Re: Barwich] #4105599 05/24/16 07:10 PM
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I love my Sienna!


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Re: Advice: Odyssey or Sienna? [Re: Barwich] #4105600 05/24/16 07:10 PM
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Sienna - no timing belt, so that's $1000 you will save.


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Re: Advice: Odyssey or Sienna? [Re: Miller88] #4105615 05/24/16 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: Miller88
Sienna - no timing belt, so that's $1000 you will save.


Except the timing covers on the 2gr-Fe are almost guaranteed to leak at some point, and that's a $2500 repair versus $1k for the timing belt.

I would still choose the Sienna to avoid the VCM, but you need to pick your poison.


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Re: Advice: Odyssey or Sienna? [Re: The Critic] #4105650 05/24/16 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: Miller88
Sienna - no timing belt, so that's $1000 you will save.


Except the timing covers on the 2gr-Fe are almost guaranteed to leak at some point, and that's a $2500 repair versus $1k for the timing belt.

I would still choose the Sienna to avoid the VCM, but you need to pick your poison.


You can easily bypass the VCM on an Odyssey.

I really dont get the issue with a belt. Chains do wear and cause permanent timing offset, which should be remediated with woodruff keys. Chains arent immune, and as you point out, the leaks can be more costly.

Its more or less six in one, half dozen in the other. We liked the way a lower trim odyssey was decked out compared to the Sienna, and certain other elements like the quality of the rear seats and such were better on the Odyssey. Plus we got a better deal. If we had bought a sienna, besides the fact that there were a few things we didnt prefer as compared to the Odyssey, all in all we would have been happy.

Re: Advice: Odyssey or Sienna? [Re: Barwich] #4105657 05/24/16 08:19 PM
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Honda transmissions????

Re: Advice: Odyssey or Sienna? [Re: Barwich] #4105681 05/24/16 08:33 PM
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Re: Advice: Odyssey or Sienna? [Re: Barwich] #4105704 05/24/16 08:47 PM
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Our 2010 Sienna has been pretty good (I know that it's older than what you're looking at, but it's got the same engine). It's got 115k on it now.

It needed an exterior door handle about a year ago.

It needed a repair to the VVT system at about 100k.

The AC must have a leak because it's not working very well this year.

It had the radio replaced under warranty.

All the rear lightbulbs are TERRIBLE to get to. Replace them all when you are there.

The 2gr-fe is a nice engine. Plenty of power in the Sienna. It still gets fairly good MPGs.


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Re: Advice: Odyssey or Sienna? [Re: Barwich] #4105711 05/24/16 08:54 PM
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My GF's dad has a 2012 Sienna I was amazed how nice that rides. Plenty of power for what it's needed for


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Re: Advice: Odyssey or Sienna? [Re: Barwich] #4105713 05/24/16 08:55 PM
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IMHO, Sienna.
Why?
2GR-FE. No timing belt or VCM. Lots of power and low end while still being efficient. Friends of mine have 2012ish Sienna and they drive the [censored] out of it. It still runs great! My cousins have an Odyssey and it drives well, but the VCM is noisy and is not seamless. Also, the Sienna is quieter.
But in the end it all comes down to what suits you better. A better deal is an easy way to decide.


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Re: Advice: Odyssey or Sienna? [Re: Barwich] #4105715 05/24/16 08:56 PM
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I am a little behind on the current Japanese motors. Can you guys fill me in, what is the VCM? Also was not aware of the belt on Honda and chain on Toyota. How is the current auto transmission in the Odyssey?


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Re: Advice: Odyssey or Sienna? [Re: TmanP] #4105716 05/24/16 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: TmanP
Our 2010 Sienna has been pretty good (I know that it's older than what you're looking at, but it's got the same engine). It's got 115k on it now.

It needed an exterior door handle about a year ago.

It needed a repair to the VVT system at about 100k.

The AC must have a leak because it's not working very well this year.

It had the radio replaced under warranty.

All the rear lightbulbs are TERRIBLE to get to. Replace them all when you are there.

The 2gr-fe is a nice engine. Plenty of power in the Sienna. It still gets fairly good MPGs.


In regards to the VVT cam gear... What type of oil are you running? Synthetic or conventional?


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