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Red Line 20W60 Synth. 1k Miles '13 KTM DUKE 690 #4105533 05/24/16 05:49 PM
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Here's the latest report from the Duke with the Red Line 20w60.



If you've been following my posts, the previous thread is located:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...th_#Post4025652


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Re: Red Line 20W60 Synth. 1k Miles '13 KTM DUKE 690 [Re: albertdi] #4105628 05/24/16 07:59 PM
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How are the seat of the pants dyno readings??

Re: Red Line 20W60 Synth. 1k Miles '13 KTM DUKE 690 [Re: albertdi] #4105643 05/24/16 08:11 PM
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You've pretty much covered all the high end oils.

Seems right now, 1000 miles is your max interval on that motor to keep the metal down, and wear wise seems near the same, amongst the different oils , although iron seem to drop alittle with the Redline.

Im really thinking that motor is just going to shed higher than the average street bike.

Interesting to see how bad the Valvoline does in that motor.

Re: Red Line 20W60 Synth. 1k Miles '13 KTM DUKE 690 [Re: Mackelroy] #4105695 05/24/16 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mackelroy
You've pretty much covered all the high end oils.
since the company I worked for used the Delo 400 Hydroisomerized oil [GPII what ever] And seeing the insides of some high mile and or high hour engines I can't see little if any benefits of the syn oils except maybe at the harshest extremes.

Re: Red Line 20W60 Synth. 1k Miles '13 KTM DUKE 690 [Re: albertdi] #4105821 05/24/16 11:04 PM
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And that sign needs reform, than.

Re: Red Line 20W60 Synth. 1k Miles '13 KTM DUKE 690 [Re: albertdi] #4105893 05/25/16 04:03 AM
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I still like the looks of the Amsoil 60 run. Keep on motorin'.


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Re: Red Line 20W60 Synth. 1k Miles '13 KTM DUKE 690 [Re: albertdi] #4105995 05/25/16 08:03 AM
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you are using some mighty expensive oil for just 1k miles with poor results


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Re: Red Line 20W60 Synth. 1k Miles '13 KTM DUKE 690 [Re: CT8] #4106106 05/25/16 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: CT8
How are the seat of the pants dyno readings??


pretty good. whole lotta fun! I'm a bit bummed out by a radiator leak I discovered about a week ago. Then I discovered a broken bracket between the engine mount and the exhaust. Hopefully I'll be up and running by within the next week or so.


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Re: Red Line 20W60 Synth. 1k Miles '13 KTM DUKE 690 [Re: Mackelroy] #4106109 05/25/16 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mackelroy
You've pretty much covered all the high end oils.

Seems right now, 1000 miles is your max interval on that motor to keep the metal down, and wear wise seems near the same, amongst the different oils , although iron seem to drop alittle with the Redline.

Im really thinking that motor is just going to shed higher than the average street bike.

Interesting to see how bad the Valvoline does in that motor.





I think the iron is down because of the 4 magnets I added to the oil path. Silicon is up because I installed a new cam on this oil run.

Am I correct in reading that you are pessimistic about the valvoline?

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Re: Red Line 20W60 Synth. 1k Miles '13 KTM DUKE 690 [Re: Bandito440] #4106111 05/25/16 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted By: Bandito440
I still like the looks of the Amsoil 60 run. Keep on motorin'.


I'm gonna see if amsoil will exchange the 7 quarts of amsoil 10w60 I have for some 60 based on my dissatisfaction and armchair reasearch


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Re: Red Line 20W60 Synth. 1k Miles '13 KTM DUKE 690 [Re: sunruh] #4106112 05/25/16 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: sunruh
you are using some mighty expensive oil for just 1k miles with poor results


yes, but, SCIENCE!


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Re: Red Line 20W60 Synth. 1k Miles '13 KTM DUKE 690 [Re: Pontual] #4106113 05/25/16 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted By: Pontual
And that sign needs reform, than.


Who me? or CT8?


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Re: Red Line 20W60 Synth. 1k Miles '13 KTM DUKE 690 [Re: albertdi] #4106499 05/25/16 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: albertdi
Originally Posted By: Mackelroy
You've pretty much covered all the high end oils.









Am I correct in reading that you are pessimistic about the valvoline?




Not at all, but id be shocked if it showed better wear numbers than that redline.

Re: Red Line 20W60 Synth. 1k Miles '13 KTM DUKE 690 [Re: albertdi] #4106924 05/26/16 06:29 AM
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I guess I am missing something here, I even checked the last link you provided. I see nothing on what oils are what in the UOAs...
I would love to know which one is the Valvoline because I am sure it must be one of the best reports out of all of these.
It would be good to have a list of what oil is what, simple by listing the oil and mileage it was in use so we can compare.
Again, I know it just be me! *L* But I cant find it. Im sure there must be others!

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Re: Red Line 20W60 Synth. 1k Miles '13 KTM DUKE 690 [Re: albertdi] #4107905 05/27/16 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted By: albertdi
Originally Posted By: sunruh
you are using some mighty expensive oil for just 1k miles with poor results


yes, but, SCIENCE!


not really

you changed cams - ie another variable

not a valid comparison


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