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Shell Friction Modified Technology in VPower #4101577 05/20/16 06:07 AM
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Hi

Shell Friction Modified Technology in VPower any special advantage over the friction additives used in BP or Caltex or Others.

Or is it and just marketing hype for the unlearned ?

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Re: Shell Friction Modified Technology in VPower [Re: virginoil] #4101664 05/20/16 08:19 AM
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Maybe a formulator could help us here, but it would seem reasonable to me that there would be a lot of things in other fuels, too, that we really don't understand or simply take for granted. I don't doubt that Shell V-Power Nitro+ is great fuel. In fact, that's about all I've used for several months. However, I suspect that Shell is just better at "talking up" their fuel than the others.

They should be proud, but we're not comparing a Rolls Royce to a buckboard, here.


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Re: Shell Friction Modified Technology in VPower [Re: virginoil] #4103200 05/21/16 10:56 PM
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Over 300 views and no formulators to advise. I guess none here on BITOG yet.

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Re: Shell Friction Modified Technology in VPower [Re: virginoil] #4103266 05/22/16 02:18 AM
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That or they're wisely avoiding the thread. wink


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Re: Shell Friction Modified Technology in VPower [Re: virginoil] #4103280 05/22/16 03:10 AM
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I add my own friction modifier to the fuel I get. We don't get nitro+ here, but if I'm abroad or can't find the brand I usually get I always go for Shell V-power. I get the least dpf regens with it but it's also the most expensive fuel. The fuel I usually get is amongst the cheapest, yet is the only one I found to delay the dpf regens (not as much as v-power, but close).


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Re: Shell Friction Modified Technology in VPower [Re: virginoil] #4103354 05/22/16 07:22 AM
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Some DPF afflicted Germans that use supermarket diesel use this fuel additive:

https://pim.liqui-moly.de/pidoc/P000035/5148-DieselParticulateFilterProtector-7.0-us.pdf

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We do get V-Power diesel here. However, I think he's referring mostly to the gasoline, at least in my view, because the gasoline advertising literature is actually mentioning friction modification. In fact, it mentions a pile of stuff that no one else mentions. Their TV ads are a little shorter on details, of course.



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Re: Shell Friction Modified Technology in VPower [Re: UltrafanUK] #4103653 05/22/16 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: UltrafanUK
Some DPF afflicted Germans that use supermarket diesel use this fuel additive:

https://pim.liqui-moly.de/pidoc/P000035/5148-DieselParticulateFilterProtector-7.0-us.pdf



That's a fuel-borne catalyst though.


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Re: Shell Friction Modified Technology in VPower [Re: virginoil] #4103667 05/22/16 02:54 PM
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The V-power label Shell are using applies to both their top end petrol (Gasoline) and diesel.

This link is for the Shell info on V-power and it appears the new friction modifiers are just detergents, not some new bling bling high tech upper cylinder lubricant:

http://www.shell.co.uk/motorist/shell-fu...s-unleaded.html

Interesting part:

Shell V-Power Nitro+ Unleaded with Friction Modification Technology (FMT) is designed to help reduce friction in critical areas of your engine, helping them turn more freely.
*Actual effects and benefits may vary according to vehicle, age of vehicle, driving conditions and driving style
Actual potential benefits relate to a detergency element which is designed to help clean-up existing deposits in your engine.


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Re: Shell Friction Modified Technology in VPower [Re: UltrafanUK] #4104047 05/23/16 04:40 AM
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I believe there was some paper posted here about how well friction modifiers can survive the combustion process. I never got a change to read it, though.


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Re: Shell Friction Modified Technology in VPower [Re: virginoil] #4106411 05/25/16 03:49 PM
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Any petrol blended with BASF additive package "Keropur" (which would probably cover most of the fuel sold in Germany) should contain friction modifiers.

http://www.performancechemicals.basf.com...keropur/effects

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Nice, thanks for that. They also mention corrosion inhibition, just like Shell does.


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Re: Shell Friction Modified Technology in VPower [Re: UltrafanUK] #4109302 05/28/16 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: UltrafanUK
The V-power label Shell are using applies to both their top end petrol (Gasoline) and diesel.

This link is for the Shell info on V-power and it appears the new friction modifiers are just detergents, not some new bling bling high tech upper cylinder lubricant:

http://www.shell.co.uk/motorist/shell-fu...s-unleaded.html

Interesting part:

Shell V-Power Nitro+ Unleaded with Friction Modification Technology (FMT) is designed to help reduce friction in critical areas of your engine, helping them turn more freely.
*Actual effects and benefits may vary according to vehicle, age of vehicle, driving conditions and driving style
Actual potential benefits relate to a detergency element which is designed to help clean-up existing deposits in your engine.



I guess Shells MFT is basic chemistry comparable to friction modifiers used in other Top Tier fuels, MFT marketing hype after a reread of the blurb above.



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Re: Shell Friction Modified Technology in VPower [Re: Garak] #4109838 05/29/16 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: Garak
Nice, thanks for that. They also mention corrosion inhibition, just like Shell does.


TRANSLATION: Fuel Stabilizer. smile

A fuel stabilizer contains top oil (carrier), corrosion inhibitors, and oxidation inhibitors, and demulsifiers.

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Re: Shell Friction Modified Technology in VPower [Re: virginoil] #4109894 05/29/16 04:58 PM
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PEA is a multifunction add. Detergency, corrosion inhibitor and antioxidant.

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