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What happened to this kind of oil change? #4089498 05/06/16 01:44 PM
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Re: What happened to this kind of oil change? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4089505 05/06/16 01:56 PM
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First I'm hearing of it, but it does say say 5 years from 2015. I would imagine manufactures would not want this, as they would lose maintenance revenue.


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Re: What happened to this kind of oil change? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4089507 05/06/16 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack

I'm kind of surprised a german manufacturer didn't try it out. wink
Separate drain plugs, oil filters, and fill caps aren't very complicated and could be "improved" afterall...


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Re: What happened to this kind of oil change? [Re: HemiHawk] #4089529 05/06/16 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
First I'm hearing of it, but it does say say 5 years from 2015. I would imagine manufactures would not want this, as they would lose maintenance revenue.


I'm sure most manufacturers would charge the same labor rate even though it takes 90 seconds to do. They could have even less training for the lube jockies.


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Re: What happened to this kind of oil change? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4089548 05/06/16 02:42 PM
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You guys would have liked a Texaco LOF service back in 1970. We even oiled the door hinges. You got real service. Sure couldn't pull off a real job in 90 seconds.

Modern cars get no credit for the amazing increase in reliability over the last 40+ years. The man who changes your oil may be more important than you think...


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Re: What happened to this kind of oil change? [Re: SteveSRT8] #4089598 05/06/16 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
You guys would have liked a Texaco LOF service back in 1970. We even oiled the door hinges. You got real service. Sure couldn't pull off a real job in 90 seconds.

Modern cars get no credit for the amazing increase in reliability over the last 40+ years. The man who changes your oil may be more important than you think...


My dad gets good service from a Valvoline LOF shop near his house. He has been using $20 coupons for years. They even offer top offs on all fluids in between service for free.

Me, I'm a nut about torque spec and using proper oil so I do it myself, but I kind of enjoy getting out in the garage and away from the IT Office.


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Re: What happened to this kind of oil change? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4089610 05/06/16 03:51 PM
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There will be massive resistance; to the point that it won't take place unless mandated.

Here's why: My son is going to graduate college soon and start work Boeing Aircraft..I can assure you he knows nothing about oil. One of the jobs he held while in high school was a "porter" at a new car dealership. Before anyone comes up with preconceived notions of his duties, he did not empty garbage cans and clean toilets.
There were two employees on site at 6 am; the service manager and my son. The service manager would read the customer complaints for vehicles dropped off after hours for service. Realize that even at a major metropolitan new car dealership; some mechanics are really good at electrical work, while another may be good with automatic transmissions, etc. The manager would give my son the keys and tell him to go out on the parking lot and find the blue Impala and pull it up for "Larry." It would go like this until all the cars are positioned for service, when the $35 hour Union Mechanics start work at 8 am, the cars are waiting for them.
There was only one mechanic who got two service bays all by himself. This guy did nothing but oil changes...He had two lifts. He could look at a car and tell you the size socket needed for oil change. My son would pull in a car for him, he would run it up on the lift and take one of his sockets off his belt clip, chuck it into his air ratchet and btwwwwwf! off the drain pan bolt, letting the socket and oil fall into his positioned drain pan. Then he would undo and throw away the oil filter. While this car is draining, he'd pull a second car into the other lift and start over. While the SECOND car is draining, he would go back to the first car, replace the drain plug, install a new filter, let the car down off the lift and fill with bulk oil; then go to the second car and repeat while my son would pull out the first car and bring another one in.
Back and forth like this, the "oil change monkey" could crank out 8 oil changes an hour, all day long, EVERY DAY and eat a sandwich, drink a soda, etc. Oil changes are the NUMBER ONE reason owners visit the stealership service department. Dealers aren't going to let this go without lobbying their legislatures.


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Re: What happened to this kind of oil change? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4089692 05/06/16 05:44 PM
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In the interest of saving the environment and being green, this will kick the oil changing business to the curb within twenty years. The government will make whatever deals necessary.


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Re: What happened to this kind of oil change? [Re: Ihatetochangeoil] #4089694 05/06/16 05:45 PM
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Even an F1 team couldn't do a 90 second oil change.

When this becomes a reality does jiffy lube create an express lane called lightning lube? Lol


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Re: What happened to this kind of oil change? [Re: SteveSRT8] #4091991 05/09/16 08:58 AM
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If i dont lube the door hinges ,the customers get annoyed .Still use shackle fluid on the springs and rubbers underneath the car !

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What would places like Midas do without the 86-point inspection to find money-making opportunities like the full brake job that seems to always be recommended?

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Originally Posted By: AuthorEditor
What would places like Midas do without the 86-point inspection to find money-making opportunities like the full brake job that seems to always be recommended?


Who says that wouldn't happen?


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There is already one production car with this system built into it. It's not a car you are likely to ever see, but nonetheless it is out in the wild now.


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Re: What happened to this kind of oil change? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4094471 05/11/16 11:06 PM
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Here is a BP promo video for the system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWlPyM1gzQ4


These oil cells strike me as printer cartridges for engines. If these things catch on, there's plenty of money to be made for the dealer, auto maker and lubrication vendor by having an engine rely on expensive proprietary parts for routine maintenance.

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I wanna see someone do a c&p on that! lol

Looks sketchy - and a nice way to make an oil change cost $3-400 probably.

What about the oil in the sump?

That cell probably only holds a gallon at most.

Oh well, most engines with a half-assed oil change would last just long enough to make it out of warranty.

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